Rear subframe bushing problem

[michmark]

I am stripping out a Merkur XR4Ti (the Sierra in the US) and have run into a problem. The 19mm head bolt that goes through the large rubber mounting donut has rusted thoroughly to the metal sleeve that runs inside the rubber. To compound the issue, the captive nut is no longer captive and the bolt, sleeve and nut spin around without loosening. Cutting the head off of the bolt relieved some frustration on my part but did nothing to let the subframe drop down from the body.

Any suggestions for how to attack this?

Mark Bates

[jasongray5]

perhaps cutting around the mount (thus creating a hole in the chassis) then sorting it out when its on the floor?

[MightyMouth]

oxy-acetylene?

[Tilly819]

Iff in doubt, get the angle grinder out......... hey that even rhymes teehee

[flyerncle]

BFI,brute force and ignorance. The suggestion of hole in chassis makes the most sense as you could possibly remove the cap nut,if not attempt to cut sleeve and bolt between frame and chassis.

Good Luck.

[michmark]

Thanks for all of your suggestions. I have also thought of using my propane torch (I don't have Oxy-acetylene) to burn out the rubber bushing. Probably will be messy and toxic so this will be the last desperate attempt.

Mark Bates

[RAYLEE29]

Hi, just a thought, do you actually need to remove the subframe? I have taken out my diff and driveshafts and soon to be taking out hubs but leaving subframe in.
Ray:)

[flyerncle]

Dont forget to loosen the hub nuts first!

[Bonzo]

Dont forget to loosen the hub nuts first!

:D :D

Who would do a silly thing like that. :o :o

[aaronbassett]

:D :D

Who would do a silly thing like that. :o :o

me lol ash would vow for me. i took my rear sub frame off with out undoing the 41mm hub nuts

[Bonzo]

Me too :o

That was after advising other people not to forget to do it :rolleyes:

My excuse is age related :D :D

[aaronbassett]

halfords did not have the right size socket that was my excuse. so i thought ill take the whole assembly out..

if u cant get a 41mm socket you can get a 40mm socket on it. I made a y shaped tool up in the end and a long pole on it and breaker bar


lesson learnt hehe

[flyerncle]

It was less hassle to drop the lot on to an oil drum and then split it later (read Handy Andy split it later) than to remove bits required. The front was done in the same manner complete with legs,subframe,engine and box.
Then removed from the frame and box taken off the engine so convienient to man handle,I will admit the workshop is a commercial one so cant take all the credit,but it made life a lot easier.

[HandyAndy]

It was less hassle to drop the lot on to an oil drum and then split it later (read Handy Andy split it later) than to remove bits required. The front was done in the same manner complete with legs,subframe,engine and box.
Then removed from the frame and box taken off the engine so convienient to man handle,I will admit the workshop is a commercial one so cant take all the credit,but it made life a lot easier.

and i can take no credit at all ;) ;)
its amazing how parts just seem to end up in back of my van, it was like the "angel mechanic of the north" ;) :D

andy

[flyerncle]

You spelt mechanic wrong,its mainiac ! Definately not angelic and much further south and warmer.

[HandyAndy]

You spelt mechanic wrong,its mainiac ! Definately not angelic and much further south and warmer.
either i took the wrong route but i,m sure i drove past the rusty statue to get to you?:confused:
all i can say is " i was amazed how quickly the donor was stripped, tight nuts an all".:cool:

cheers
Andy