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twinturbo
24th July 2010, 08:00 AM
Anyone thought about putting an MK HSR body on the Roadster? how close are the wheelbase and track of the Indy and Roaster?

TT

mr henderson
24th July 2010, 08:52 AM
I've got an earlyish Indy in the workshop at the moment, wheelbase is about 2370. Track I haven't measured due to this car having incorrectly offset wheels. Got to be pretty much the same as the Haynes I should think

twinturbo
24th July 2010, 08:59 AM
I know MK were involved to some degree in the chassis design.

TT

3GE Components
24th July 2010, 09:08 AM
I know MK were involved to some degree in the chassis design.

TT

It was Martin Keenan, who is MK Engineering, MK Sportcars is a seperate company. The MK Indy will be a similar track, as it too is Sierra based, wheelbase would be the limiting factor, although not totally impossible to make it fit. The Indy is also I believe more in keeping with the original book's dimensions for the chassis, the Roadster is a bit wider, but should fit under the body.

Kind regards

John

mr henderson
24th July 2010, 09:34 AM
I know MK were involved to some degree in the chassis design.

TT

According to the current Kit Car Magazine, Martin Keenan designed and built the Haynes Roadster while Chris wrote the book. I'm not saying that is actually the case, but that's what it says in the magazine.

RAYLEE29
24th July 2010, 09:42 AM
Does it really matter? chris definately wrote the book and gave us the website, shame he's on holiday or he could clear it up.
Did read a post on lcb a while back saying martin k designed the chassis I wasnt too sure but wasnt bothered either as its chris who was here to answer the questions.
Ray:)

twinturbo
24th July 2010, 09:44 AM
It was Martin Keenan, who is MK Engineering, MK Sportcars is a seperate company. The MK Indy will be a similar track, as it too is Sierra based, wheelbase would be the limiting factor, although not totally impossible to make it fit. The Indy is also I believe more in keeping with the original book's dimensions for the chassis, the Roadster is a bit wider, but should fit under the body.

Kind regards

John

Martin Sold the Indy to the company that is MK Sports cars.

http://www.mkengineering.co.uk/storybehindmk.htm

RAYLEE29
24th July 2010, 09:50 AM
Martin Sold the Indy to the company that is MK Sports cars.

http://www.mkengineering.co.uk/storybehindmk.htm

MK sports cars is owned by martin Keenans brother who took over production as Martin wanted to spend more time designing new projects.
Ray:)

mr henderson
24th July 2010, 10:00 AM
Does it really matter? chris definately wrote the book and gave us the website, shame he's on holiday or he could clear it up.
Did read a post on lcb a while back saying martin k designed the chassis I wasnt too sure but wasnt bothered either as its chris who was here to answer the questions.
Ray:)


Who says it matters? I didn't. It just follwed on from what TT said.

I shoukd imagine it was actually a joint effort.

RAYLEE29
24th July 2010, 10:12 AM
Who says it matters? I didn't. It just follwed on from what TT said.

I shoukd imagine it was actually a joint effort.

never said you did! just added my opinion that I dont think it matters.
didnt intend to offend anyone or start an argument
Ray:confused:

twinturbo
24th July 2010, 10:20 AM
Shall I break out the pistols :D

TT

mr henderson
24th July 2010, 10:24 AM
never said you did! just added my opinion that I dont think it matters.
didnt intend to offend anyone or start an argument
Ray:confused:

Well you used a confused smiley so I guess you are looking for an explanation, so to provide it I thought maybe you thought I implied that it did matter, because you had a question mark after the 'does it matter' comment. I don't want to offend anyone either which is why I said that I wasn't suggesting that it mattered in my first comment, if you see what I mean :)

spud69
24th July 2010, 10:44 AM
When you look at the MK Indy a lot of the panels are very similar TT but where extended / widened by Mark, Fabby, to fit the wider Haynes chassis. It looks like the HSR body was designed to fit straight over the Indy but maybe the extra width and length of the Haynes would make it a problem. Martin did design the Chassis with Chris with the suspension geometry designed on Lotus software.

Maybe an email to Martin would give you the answer, i'm sure if anyone would know then he would:

martin@keenan7060.freeserve.co.uk

I'm sure its still this e-mail.

We do have an enclosed body shell for the Roadster but it's going to take an extreme amount of work to get it to a condition where it can be used.

Good Luck TT....AndyH

fabbyglass
24th July 2010, 12:19 PM
They are all Locosts really as Uncle Ron's book sparked them all off (me included), all that has happened is the chassis has been tweaked to accept Sierra stuff rather than Escort......:rolleyes: My Lotus 11ish thing was loosely based on Ron's chassis but with a few tweaks, why reinvent the wheel or more to the point claim to have reinvented the wheel...:rolleyes:

I can think of at least four firms producing 7's that are the same size as Uncle Ron's Locost a few have grown in size because folk eat too many pies:D

twinturbo
24th July 2010, 03:52 PM
I am not planning on doing it myself, at least not on build #1

TT

AshG
24th July 2010, 10:20 PM
Just to clear it up. martin designed and built the car. chris wrote the book and helped in his usual way :D .

side by side the roadster is noticeably bigger than an indy. i doubt the hsr body will fit without a bit of bit of cutting and shutting of the fg.

next time im out on a run with the skcc lads i will compare the roadster a bit more closely with an indy.

fabbyglass
25th July 2010, 10:01 AM
As for the mags well, they write what the manufacturers want them to write.
When my old beast was tested by Which Kit they wrote it had a dedion rear axle fitted when in fact it didn't.....the owner at the time told me not to rush out and buy a copy as I would be pissed off at what has been written.
He was right I was pissed off..