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Tatey 25th May 2009 06:38 PM

Personally i would much prefer to trust Chris and the Haynes name and over prepair, compared to someone from a steel company.

Chris seems to have done a lot of work getting the car to where it is now.

And would you really want to risk buying inferior steel for a car that you and another people would be in?

Would you be able to live with yourself knowing that you might have injured/killed someone close to you because you wanted to save a few £'s?

Land Locked 25th May 2009 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tatey (Post 15177)
Personally i would much prefer to trust Chris and the Haynes name and over prepair, compared to someone from a steel company.

Chris seems to have done a lot of work getting the car to where it is now.

And would you really want to risk buying inferior steel for a car that you and another people would be in?

Would you be able to live with yourself knowing that you might have injured/killed someone close to you because you wanted to save a few £'s?


No argument with any of these points, just having trouble sourcing the good stuff locally.

Land Locked 26th May 2009 07:06 AM

The reason i quoted Chris' post was cause he didn't specify the wall of the RHS that would make it heavier. As I understand RHS and ERW have the same density.

So the question I didn't ask (I plead lack of sleep), Is it the RHS thats heavier or more dense or is it because of the wall thickness that the RHS would be heavier and more likely to break than deform?

However at the end of the day the above is all academic as I am still hunting down a supplier for ERW, there has to be a couple of them here in SA.

Edit to add: Does this appear to be the right stuff? http://www.robor.co.za/cold_rolled_tube.htm

ray3.2 26th May 2009 09:52 AM

Robor looks as good a place as any to get your steel from. Check out the DIN specs and BS specs on google.

Tatey 26th May 2009 03:14 PM

Just rang up a local a local steel stockist recommended by flyerncle. Got quoted the following:

£10.85 per 6.1m - 25x25 16swg ERW
£6.45 per 6.1m - 19x19 16 swg ERW
£8.05 per 6.1m - 19mm diameter bar

So comes to a straight £100. Well pleased with that price.

Bonzo 26th May 2009 03:47 PM

A decent price is that ;)

That is more than £50 cheaper than the last quote I had from my local stockist. :eek: :confused:

Don't be stingy when buying the sqare tube

7 lengths of 25x25 & 3 lengths of 19x19 ought to be about right. The jigs use away to some of the 25x25 & you wouldn't be human if you did not have the odd cock up when cutting the steel.

Best pay for delivery once ;)

flyerncle 26th May 2009 05:20 PM

Would I lead you astray....?

fluxcored 15th July 2009 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Land Locked (Post 15198)
The reason i quoted Chris' post was cause he didn't specify the wall of the RHS that would make it heavier. As I understand RHS and ERW have the same density.

So the question I didn't ask (I plead lack of sleep), Is it the RHS thats heavier or more dense or is it because of the wall thickness that the RHS would be heavier and more likely to break than deform?

However at the end of the day the above is all academic as I am still hunting down a supplier for ERW, there has to be a couple of them here in SA.

Edit to add: Does this appear to be the right stuff? http://www.robor.co.za/cold_rolled_tube.htm

Sorry to resurrect this thread - maybe I should have PM'ed Land Locked.

Land Locked .. did you manage to source some ERW. I had the same problem a few years back and just used RHS but Chris does present a powerful argument, I must say.

Cheers.

Land Locked 15th July 2009 11:11 AM

Flux, sadly not yet. Not a huge problem as I'm still trying to get the time to clear the workshop.(should have comfortable parking 4 three cars and all the benches, lucky to get one in at the moment):(

The local guys keep asking what it's for and then insist that the hot rolled is more than adequate.(buggers) I may well end up getting a chassis pack off e-bay.

fluxcored 15th July 2009 12:29 PM

I'll make a few enquiries and let you know what I dig up but I've got a sinking feeling I'll also be forced to get an Ebay chassis pack.

I hear you. I absolutely hate the so called engineering shops and steel suppliers down here. Either they have'nt got a clue to what I'm talking about or am totally disinterested in providing assistance. I always end up shipping stuff in from Port Elizabeth and/or Cape Town.


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