Zetec engine identification
 

Last week I picked up a zetec engine from a 2001 focus (supposedly 2.0)
I didn't think of looking on the side of the block to confirm as the car that its from comes up as a 2.0 when searching for parts etc with the reg.

I have just looked at the side of the block for the engine number which I can't seem to find and the large number on the side is 18 so i'm guessing it must be a 1.8.

I can't quite understand this, I don't mind if it is a 1.8 but why would this happen???
Mabey the owner trashed the 2.0 engine and as 1.8's were cheaper they swapped for 1.8???
I have the ecu and most of the loom. Would it have been a straight swap to change the engine and ecu?

Any ideas?

There's a chance it's the original ECU. Since it meters off the MAF, it could have adjusted sufficiently for the different engine displacement. If you're swapping it, keep in mind you'll need to swap the immobilizer bits, too.
There's a four letter code on the ECU, like DESK here:
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...HDwvkvR_VxAOgA. Trawl the web for it and find out what car it comes from.

The ecu code is TEEM but can't find much info.

Mondeo Zetecs have the "2.0" behind the exh manifold,look at Zetec inside website for more info and there are many zetec sites for info.

Ford parts Dunston are a good source of info.

Engine code is also good source of info.

Stick a Pinto in pre IVA and change it after .

did you see the engine being removed from the car?

TT

No I didn't actually see it being removed but contacted the guy I got it from but he was just breaking the car so wouldn't know if it had been swapped.
It must be 1.8 as it has the large stamp on side.

Will try clean up where the engine number should be and get some pictures

Its definatly a bit of a mix up.
Sicker on side says 2.0

Block 1.8

And no engine number


Number on head

Other numbers on the block if they mean anything.

Well after a bit of googling, the ECU is for a 2.0 according to http://www.atpelectronics.co.uk/

So I have:
1.8 Block
2.0 ECU
Head unsure. Does anyone know if there is a way of telling between the 1.8 and 2.0?

I don't like the idea of running a 1.8 on a 2.0 map (can't be good) so I could either swap the ECU to a 1.8. (auto data seems to show all pins are the same) or get the 2.0 ECU remapped.

Nothing is ever easy...

You need a engine number to apply for IVA test, from the engine number they can determine the exact spec of the engine e.g maximum rpm for the noise test, emissions etc and registering with DVLA

My zetec engine numbers were really hard to read on the block, my 2.0l started with EDDG it's printed with lots of little tiny dots, I had to take a photo in bright light and zoom in on the computer to read the numbers, couldn't do it by eye

Oh I see rich, so it could actually be there somewhere...

Could you confirm that I am looking in the correct location and I could take some close up pictures and wire brush some more.

On the third picture down its stamped on the block on the flat area next to the fly wheel and the crank sensor housing, yours looks quite rusty, I been told the correct way to read it was to use a uv light and sum die

Thanks, I will see what I can do with it.
I will try get some dye and uv light if not too expensive

Gave it a good wire brushing yesterday but the metal is very pitted due to corrosion I can just make out one number so there was something there at some point.
Still struggling to make anything out when we zooming in on computer.
I will try smoothing the surface with emery paper and hopefully there will be something left but I have my doubts.
Without engine number am I wasting my time and will need another engine?

You could also try etching to get the engine number to show up better.

Theres a guide here, you will need some etching acid but it would probably be worth a try before buying a new engine.

Cheers
Stot

Ah ha!
Quick rub down and now i'm getting somewhere.
I have EYDE _ _ _ 4 6 3 5 Σ

So that proves it is a 1.8 anyway.

Some of them i'm not quite sure of but the centre is really bad and don't want to rub down too far.
Any idea where to get the acid?

I bought my last bottle of hydrochloric acid (17%) from http://mistralni.co.uk this is basically a 50/50 mix already but In the instructions link I posted it also says..

So maybe a local spa or pool place would be easier.

If you are going to do this follow all the proper safety precautions, if diluting add the HCL acid to water not water to acid, but from the sound of it this could pull out the last few numbers.

Cheers
Stot

Thanks very much. Will order a bottle.
Just had a look but can only see 10 or 28 percent.

I wasn't sure about the different percentages or how to mix them and I found some concentrated pretty cheap so will just mix 50/50 as the guide says.

Fingers crossed. I will get some before and after pictures if it works.

Sorry, concentrated HCL is around 35-38% so you are looking for around half that as a final acid so 17% is about right.

I would suggest just doing a couple of ml of solution, you only need to rub a little on the area so dont need to mix much at all.

Good luck!

Cheers
Stot

Not going well at all.
Some of the numbers are not actually what I first thought and others still nothing.
I don't think I can remove anymore metal as there will be nothing left.

Are there any other options than another engine?

Is there any database I could use to enter what think is the number is to help confirm?

http://www.chargerclubofwa.asn.au/pr...roductionID=42

Theoretically calculate the engine displacement??

:eek: Or if that fails multiply your inside leg measurement by you waist size :p

Its not actually the displacement that I need. Its the actual engine ID number.
Every engine has a different one.

Dont know how else you would get the number if the etching didnt bring them up. Maybe track the seller back to the original V5 if possible?

Cheers
Stot

The seller didn't have to v5, just the other side (v5c I think it is) but I do have the car registration.
I was thinking could possibly try contacting the dvla but no doubt the engine number wasn't changed when the engine swap was done.

Oh bugger.

what the reg i will try and get you chassis number

NL51BXV
The vin would have the original engine number so probably no good but worth a try.
Thanks

Focus 1998-2005, 2.0L Zetec-E EFI (HC), Panther Black (Metallic)


VIN Number: WF0AXXGCDA1G79639
Registration Number: NL51BXV
First Registration Date: 05.09.2001
Registration Country: GB

Registration information for your currently selected Vehicle:

First Registration Date:
Registration Number: Registration Date: Registration Country: Modified Date:
NL51BXV 05.09.2001 GB
18.01.2012


Historic Registration Dates:
Registration Number: Registration Date: Registration Country: Modified Date:
NL51BXV 05.09.2001 GB
18.01.2012

hope this any use

Does anyone know if there is any kind of database where I can enter what I think is the engine number to confirm it is correct?