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robo 20th July 2011 11:46 AM

This needs a re write
 
Come on chaps this iva manual needs a re write to cut out the shxxte and be roadster specific. Needs to be available to all so we can deny the iva terrorists the re test fee!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyone?

Bob

deezee 20th July 2011 02:41 PM

The manual is available to all. isn't it? I'd leave it exactly as it is. Is there a particular section your struggling with? to be honest, the only iva help required is a good source of trim and covers to help pass. if you build it by the book with aluminium panels, there are loads if sharp edges that need covering and capping. what

robo 20th July 2011 08:27 PM

Just thought it would be a good idea to sift through the manual and pick out the bits that apply and a pointer to where and what needs doing to comply. Reading the forums there are a fair few failures which can only be the rules misunderstood ,no one would go along to their test thinking they had a failure which reiterates my point on interpretation. it would probably end up a few pages.

Just my 2pc

Bob

MarkB 10th August 2011 08:20 AM

Trouble is the IVA is like the MOT, it's down to the tester and his interpretation of the regs, for instance my camper failed the mot for having tyres that measured from 2mm to 1.6mm across 3/4 of the tread width yet were ok in the eyes of another tester!!!:mad:

It's all about covering their own arse in the event something goes wrong!!!

flyerncle 10th August 2011 01:50 PM

"Center 3/4 of tread must have at least 1.6 mm" ask for a VT17 and see what happens,there is too much "intrepetation" of whats written and RFR's are clearly stated in the manual.

The fast fit fraternity are the worst for this as they prey on the ill informed public with the old sharp intake of breath and I would not let my kid drive that story's

les g 10th August 2011 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyerncle (Post 62505)
"Center 3/4 of tread must have at least 1.6 mm" ask for a VT17 and see what happens,there is too much "intrepetation" of whats written and RFR's are clearly stated in the manual.

The fast fit fraternity are the worst for this as they prey on the ill informed public with the old sharp intake of breath and I would not let my kid drive that story's

Paul
i told him to complain and take it to the top..and complain in the proper manner
but i think he just likes to moan. :p
you like me know what happens if you press the right buttons!!!! :eek:
but i dont think Fabby believed me :(
cheers les g

flyerncle 10th August 2011 07:57 PM

Agreed Les,only problem with VT 17 is that it will cost you full current fee and in the current situation of fee cutting its probably easier to put up and shut up and give in and do it.

Something I came across was a local Audi dealer testing a TT and failing it on front roll bar excessively worn and marked dangerous on the 30 £600 to repair.

I did it for less than £70.

les g 11th August 2011 12:13 AM

Paul
i have seen both sides of it
and agree sometimes its easier to grin and bear it
but it really grips me when people are being shafted
the only way to deal with mot cowboys is use the correct channels
if not vosa wont even flag it for consideration
its tuff love but it has to be done
..... how many times have you been told pass and advise ...................
and thought if that was my car i would do that.....
it a shitter but unless the little guy stamps his fot nothing changes
cheers les g

MarkB 11th August 2011 08:58 AM

I complained but my rant on here wasn't about my MOT it was more to point out that whether MOT or IVA it's down to the person testing at the time as some folk have passed IVA and some haven't yet have done exactly the same things in exactly the same way.




Quote:

Originally Posted by les g (Post 62569)
Paul
i have seen both sides of it
and agree sometimes its easier to grin and bear it
but it really grips me when people are being shafted
the only way to deal with mot cowboys is use the correct channels
if not vosa wont even flag it for consideration
its tuff love but it has to be done
..... how many times have you been told pass and advise ...................
and thought if that was my car i would do that.....
it a shitter but unless the little guy stamps his fot nothing changes
cheers les g


les g 11th August 2011 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkB (Post 62576)
I complained but my rant on here wasn't about my MOT it was more to point out that whether MOT or IVA it's down to the person testing at the time as some folk have passed IVA and some haven't yet have done exactly the same things in exactly the same way.

Got to disagree with you there Mark on one point
there should be no grey areas with an MOT there is a book with all the Q,s and A,s and it should be available at the Test Station.

But as for IVA that seems a friggin nightmare and definitely open to the testers interpretation
cheers les g
ps how you doin you have been quiet


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