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Talonmotorsport 31st July 2011 04:25 PM

nut'n'bolt group buy?
 
Would any body be interested in a suspension nut and bolt group buy? I know this has been run twice before but I'm sure there are a few new builders that will be needing these soon. At this point I'm only looking for people to regesture their interest so if it falls short I don't end up with 1000's of parts that will take months to shift,although some will be put on ebay.
If want to add your name to the list reply with 'quote' edit this bit off and add your name.
Package will contain the following
2 x M12 X 260mm Bolts (Rear Uprights)
2 x M12 X 200mm Bolts (Diff Mounts)
20x xM12 X 70mm Bolts (Wishbones, Rear Camber Adjuster, Lower Shock Mounts)
6 x M12 X 60MM Bolts (Upper Rear and Front Shock Mounts)
30 x M12 Nyloc nuts (Type P - these are a bit thicker than normal nuts and better suited to suspension applications)
30 x M12 Plain full nuts (these are for test fitting components without ruining the Nyloc nuts)
60 x M12 Flat washers (Form A)
60 x M12 Black plastic nut covers.


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voucht 31st July 2011 06:27 PM

Hi Phil,
Can you give the approximative price of the set please ?
Thanks.

mikemph 31st July 2011 10:03 PM

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Talonmotorsport 31st July 2011 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by voucht (Post 61951)
Hi Phil,
Can you give the approximative price of the set please ?
Thanks.

A2 STAINLESS OPTION REMOVED ON SAFTY GROUNDS

Price of the 8.8 BZP is £23.00 a set plus £8 P&P

mikemph 31st July 2011 11:30 PM

Plated is fine with me as they will be covered with caps... and stainless bolt threads tend to pick up and are scrap once that happens. We use lots of stainless components and fasteners on our steam turbines at work and I hate working with them lol.

Although a good coating of copperslip or aluminum spray does help alot.

TSM Locost 31st July 2011 11:51 PM

Stainless Bolts warning.
 
A2 -70 are not as strong as 8.8 bpz the nearest is A4-80



Metric Class Marks on Head Material Tensile Strength Yield Strength
N/mm2 psi N/mm2 psi
8.8 8.8 Steel 800 116,000 640 93,000
10.9 10.9 Steel 1040 151,000 940 136,000
12.9 12.9 Alloy Steel 1220 177,000 1100 160,000
A2-70 A2-70 302 Stainless 700 102,000 450 65,000
A4-80 A4-80 316 Stainless 800 116,000 600 87,000

TSM Locost 1st August 2011 12:13 AM

Stainless Bolts warning.
 
A2-70 stainless bolts are rated @ 7.0 302 grade
A4-80 stainless bolts are rated @ 8.0 316 grade

I spoke with the tester @ Norwich several years ago when i had my SVA and he insisted that 8.8 was the industry standard minimum for any suspension / steering assembly,

K4KEV 1st August 2011 01:56 AM

hi Phil.....are you doing any for the sierra based build?

Deanno 1st August 2011 10:10 AM

I am intrested but i'll have to wait as the little one may be here sooner than expected.

would the ones on ebay be the same price?

voucht 1st August 2011 10:40 AM

Same as Deanno, I will be interested (8.8 plated steel), but not immediately, only when I'll get the wishbones and rear uprights, I hope in September.

gaz05 1st August 2011 11:06 AM

If this is for the sierra build then I'll have a set of the BZP.


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K4KEV 1st August 2011 11:42 AM

Gaz.....I am fairly sure this group buy is for the mazda donor

Talonmotorsport 1st August 2011 03:03 PM

Right I'll remove the stainless option then as A4 stainless bolts are twice the price of A2 :eek: This is a group buy for the sierra built car how ever I will be using the same size suspension brackets and bush tubes as the current sierra set up as it just makes production easier. The sets sold on ebay will cost more as I will have to cover ebay charges.

K4KEV 1st August 2011 04:17 PM

HUH:confused: :confused: :confused:

Cyberbeej 1st August 2011 06:22 PM

If this is for the sierra build then I'll have a set of the BZP.


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K4KEV 1st August 2011 06:40 PM

[quote=Talonmotorsport;61948]Would any body be interested in a suspension nut and bolt group buy? I know this has been run twice before but I'm sure there are a few new builders that will be needing these soon. At this point I'm only looking for people to regesture their interest so if it falls short I don't end up with 1000's of parts that will take months to shift,although some will be put on ebay.
If want to add your name to the list reply with 'quote' edit this bit off and add your name.
Package will contain the following
24x M12x70mm bolts
2x M12x150 bolts
26x M12 plain nuts
26xM12 nylocs
46x washers
46x plastic IVA covers

will somebody please please explain where the similarities lie between these two lists....this one below being the the last 2 suspension group buys for a sierra donor


below is copied n pasted from group buy thread

I had started another thread for this yesterday in the hope that it would be migrated across but appears it hasn't. So I will start another one
I have taken over the group buy as Ronnie/Bonzo has chosen to take a break from the forum.
The kits will contain exactly what they did when Ronnie was running the group buy:
2 x M12 X 260mm Bolts (Rear Uprights)
2 x M12 X 200mm Bolts (Diff Mounts)
20x xM12 X 75mm Bolts (Wishbones, Rear Camber Adjuster, Lower Shock Mounts)
6 x M12 X 60MM Bolts (Upper Rear and Front Shock Mounts)
30 x M12 Nyloc nuts (Type P - these are a bit thicker than normal nuts and better suited to suspension applications)
30 x M12 Plain full nuts (these are for test fitting components without ruining the Nyloc nuts)
60 x M12 Flat washers (Form A)
60 x M12 Black plastic nut covers.

All bolts are 8.8 high tensile and bright zinc plated. All the nuts and washers are bright zinc plated too.
this is driving me bonkers ....whats what:mad: :mad:

Talonmotorsport 1st August 2011 07:02 PM

working on revised post bare with me ............................................

Bonzo 1st August 2011 07:17 PM

[quote=K4KEV;62019]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Talonmotorsport (Post 61948)
Would any body be interested in a suspension nut and bolt group buy? I know this has been run twice before but I'm sure there are a few new builders that will be needing these soon. At this point I'm only looking for people to regesture their interest so if it falls short I don't end up with 1000's of parts that will take months to shift,although some will be put on ebay.
If want to add your name to the list reply with 'quote' edit this bit off and add your name.
Package will contain the following
24x M12x70mm bolts
2x M12x150 bolts
26x M12 plain nuts
26xM12 nylocs
46x washers
46x plastic IVA covers

will somebody please please explain where the similarities lie between these two lists....this one below being the the last 2 suspension group buys for a sierra donor

I had started another thread for this yesterday in the hope that it would be migrated across but appears it hasn't. So I will start another one

I have taken over the group buy as Ronnie/Bonzo has chosen to take a break from the forum.

The kits will contain exactly what they did when Ronnie was running the group buy:

2 x M12 X 260mm Bolts (Rear Uprights)
2 x M12 X 200mm Bolts (Diff Mounts)
20x xM12 X 75mm Bolts (Wishbones, Rear Camber Adjuster, Lower Shock Mounts)
6 x M12 X 60MM Bolts (Upper Rear and Front Shock Mounts)
30 x M12 Nyloc nuts (Type P - these are a bit thicker than normal nuts and better suited to suspension applications)
30 x M12 Plain full nuts (these are for test fitting components without ruining the Nyloc nuts)
60 x M12 Flat washers (Form A)
60 x M12 Black plastic nut covers.

All bolts are 8.8 high tensile and bright zinc plated. All the nuts and washers are bright zinc plated too.
this is driving me bonkers ....whats what:mad: :mad:


Hi Kev

I would imagine that the latest group buy is a fixing kit for the wishbone fixing set only.

That said, the 2 M12 X 150mm bolts will be too short to mount the lower rear uprights in place ( I am sure that this is just a typo )

I did re-price a new full set group buy a couple of months back, even with the increased VAT rate I could still bring them in for about £27 ( Seems to be a lot of competition in the fixings market ) ;)

I did try to gauge any possible in a new group buy when the last one stalled but there was not a lot of interest + a little bit of negativity about plans to include some more essential fixings to produce a fuller kit for not a lot of extra money :confused:

Bonzo 1st August 2011 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Talonmotorsport (Post 62028)
working on revised post bare with me ............................................

Sorry Phil

Our posts crossed :o :o

If I can help, let me know :)

Talonmotorsport 1st August 2011 07:21 PM

Thanks Ronnie, I had a complete brain fart am now working my way through my f##k up. :rolleyes:

Deanno 1st August 2011 08:18 PM

I'm intrested, but as i said i may have to get the ones off ebay as money at the moment is tight.

if you manage to get a price could you please let me know?

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Talonmotorsport 1st August 2011 08:38 PM

Right I've now sorted my arse from my elbow as we would say down ere and it works out pretty much as per Ronnies original group buy. Each set is 8.8 BZP nuts and bolts and are from a quality supplier not the crap from screwfix.

Each set works out to be 23.00 each plus £8 P&P so £31 in total.

baz-r 1st August 2011 09:57 PM

im ok for bolts and stuff at the mo but the 7/16unf X4 would be a good addition :D

i also seen some 12.9 m8x20 round head with hex drive would be ideal for the roll bar mounts

K4KEV 1st August 2011 10:02 PM

Well now that we are where I thought you wanted to be... I'll just make sure I know where your elbow is for future reference:eek:
I knew what you meant Phil ....honest
now since I require a set of your most revered SIERRA SUSPENSION BOLT GROUP BUY SPECIAL.....I will add my name to the list
sorry for persisting with the interrogation but hell we got there:rolleyes:

K4KEV 1st August 2011 10:04 PM

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Bonzo 1st August 2011 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Talonmotorsport (Post 62043)
Right I've now sorted my arse from my elbow as we would say down ere and it works out pretty much as per Ronnies original group buy. Each set is 8.8 BZP nuts and bolts and are from a quality supplier not the crap from screwfix.

Each set works out to be 23.00 each plus £8 P&P so £31 in total.


That is a good price Phil

Thanks for taking this one one, that kitchen of ours is going to go on for a good few weeks yet :rolleyes:

No build time for me any time soon :(






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mikemph 2nd August 2011 01:30 PM

Well I'm still in on this deal. How, when and where would you like the money.

Paypal is my preferred method


Mike

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KAMBO 3rd August 2011 08:00 PM

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Talonmotorsport 6th August 2011 07:18 PM

Is any body else interested in this group buy or are we all done with 7 sets?

poshguy 6th August 2011 07:46 PM

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Deanno 6th August 2011 08:28 PM

just to let you know i'm only showing intrest as money is tight with the little one due any time now.

michael92 7th August 2011 11:45 AM

monies!
 
when and how would you like paying with the monies :)

CTWV50 10th August 2011 05:11 PM

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mikemph 11th August 2011 11:07 PM

What's the latest I could really do with these bolts next week. I may have to drop out of this group buy and buy them locally as I need them ASAP :eek:

K4KEV 12th August 2011 06:35 PM

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5. K4KEV..........PAID
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Cheers Phil

Talonmotorsport 12th August 2011 07:16 PM

1. Mikemph.......PAID
2. Gaz05..........PAID
3. Cyberbeej.....PAID
4. Deanno........PENDING FUNDS
5. K4KEV..........PAID
6. Michael92.....PAID
7. KAMBO
8. Poshguy.......PAID
9.CT...............PAID

poshguy 13th August 2011 11:41 AM

1. Mikemph......PAID
2. Gaz05..........PAID
3. Cyberbeej....PAID
4. Deanno........PENDING FUNDS
5. K4KEV..........PAID
6. Michael92.....PAID
7. KAMBO
8. Poshguy.......PAID
9.CT

Thanks
Craig

CTWV50 13th August 2011 11:53 AM

1. Mikemph......PAID
2. Gaz05..........PAID
3. Cyberbeej....PAID
4. Deanno........PENDING FUNDS
5. K4KEV..........PAID
6. Michael92.....PAID
7. KAMBO
8. Poshguy.......PAID
9.CTWV50........PAID

Thanks

Chris

Talonmotorsport 13th August 2011 11:54 AM

1. Mikemph.......PAID
2. Gaz05..........PAID
3. Cyberbeej.....PAID
4. Deanno........PENDING FUNDS
5. K4KEV..........PAID
6. Michael92.....PAID
7. KAMBO
8. Poshguy.......PAID
9. CTWV50.......PAID


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