Suspension bolt kit group buy
I will soon be ready to bolt all of my suspension back on, for the last time :cool:
Although I have plenty of bolts, unfortunately, they are set bolts & I personaly, don't think it too wise to use them !! Most of you will be aware, if fixings are bought in larger quantitys, it tends to work out a lot cheaper ;) Have gauged some prices & here's what I have come up with. Full suspension & diff mounting Kit 2, M12 X 260mm bolts ( Rear uprights ) 2, M12 X 200mm bolts ( Diff mounts ) 20, M12 X 75mm bolts ( Wishbones, rear camber adjusters & Lower rear shock mounts ) 6, M12 X 60mm bolts ( Front shocks & rear upper shocks ) 30 M12 Nyloc nuts, Type p, 14mm thick 60 M12 Flat washers ( One for each side of the bolt ) Form A 24mm od, 2.5mm thick 60 M12 Black plastic nut covers I have costed each kit at about £22.50 - £25 Max, dependent on postage cost. To make full use of buying full boxes of the longer bolts ( This is where the bulk of the cost is ), I will need to find enough interest to shift 10 sets . I am quite happy to organise a group buy as it may help others avoid the headache of finding the long bolts & paying through the nose by buying small quantitys :) Any thoughts welcome. Edit Just to add, the bolts will be High Tensile 8.8 grade & all bolts, nuts & washers will be Bright Zinc Plated ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 2nd Edit Here's the list so far 1: Bonzo + nut covers 2: Tatey + nut covers + Plain nut set 3: Greasemonkey + nut covers 4: KenK + nut covers + Plain nut set 5: les g + nut covers 6: HandyAndy + nut covers 7: CarlKnight1982 + nut covers 8: David 17 9: Luke2482 + nut covers 10: Ginger Nutter + nut covers 11: Geeman + nut covers 12: Tkpm + nut covers + Plain nut set 13: onedayTM + nut covers + Plain nut set 14: Ozzy1 15: Hoybi ----------------------------------------- If any of you are confused about the nut covers, please read further down the thread. I have found a cheaper source for most of the fixings in addition to a low cost source of M12 plastic nut covers .... Looks as if I can include nut covers without increasing the kit price :) |
Count me in Bonzo!
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Hi Tatey
I think the best thing to do is start a list of folk that are interested :) If anyone thinks the quantity or any of the sizes are wrong let me know .... It can be ammended accordingly & should not affect the price. If you want in, just add your name to the list :) 1: Bonzo 2: Tatey 3: Greasemonkey |
me to please:)
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Prices are based on the lowest price that I can find at the moment Rest assured, i'll continue hunting & will get to my local wholesaler to see if I can get a better price break. ;) Determined to get the cost down, as low as possible :) |
Me too please, thanks
1: Bonzo 2: Tatey 3: Greasemonkey 4: KenK |
Nice one KenK
I think One more & I will go ahead & order up .... I can then leave this offer open untill all 10 sets are gone :) Now the good news I have found a cheaper source for all of the fastenings except the longest bolts. This stockist also has the Plastic nut covers at a very good price ( Some required fro IVA puposes ) Would folk like the appropiate nut covers included or would you prefer a lower, kit price ? It would also be great if someone has an idea of exactly what nuts need to be covered .... It would be a real pitty not to order enogh if that's what folk want ;) |
Id prefer for the nut covers to be included please Bonzo. I'll need them eventually and I can't see it costing much extra.
I know for certain that the roll bar bolts need to be covered (however i wont be needing these as my roll cage will be fully welded in). |
Me too please, thanks
1: Bonzo 2: Tatey 3: Greasemonkey 4: KenK 5: les g & the nut covers please |
You are dead right there Tatey, some nut covers will be needed for IVA
Being as I have managed to find a lower cost source for most of the fixings, i'll be able to include nut covers without increasing the original estimated cost of the bolt kit ( If that's what folk prefer ) :cool: I'll have a study of some post IVA buid pics & see if I can work out what nuts need to be covered ;) |
Bonzo i've had an idea, i'm not sure if others will want to to it. But what about also including the required number of plain M12 nuts, so that we can save the nylocs for the final fitting and just use plain nuts, since they will need to be taken off and put back on multiple times?
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Ok Les :)
I'll get on the case in the morning. In the meanwhile, i'll double check the bolt lengths are correct .... Don't want too much thread showing or even worse, not enough ;) With a little luck, I can get all of the fixings in during next week :cool: |
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Buying in bulk, the plain BZP full nuts work out about 5p each ;) Quite happy to make each order up to suit the individual within reason :) Tis time I stocked up the workshop anyways .... stacks of set bolts here but not a lot else :eek: |
can i have a full set too please, mine have been on and off too many times so time for a new set,
covers too please. thanks andy |
No problem Andy
Added to the list mate .... Now get your thinking head on & help me work out how many nut covers are likely to be needed for each car's suspension :D :D 1: Bonzo + nut covers 2: Tatey + nut covers 3: Greasemonkey 4: KenK 5: les g + nut covers 6: HandyAndy + nut covers 7: CarlKnight1982 + nut covers |
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but don,t forget that the IVA man doesn,t require nut covers on bolts/nuts that are not reachable with the radius sphere, in fact i,ve read somewhere that an IVA tester likes to see the head of bolts & lock nuts showing the strength stamp without having to remove a cover to check. cheers andy |
Yes I have read that too .... My intention is to take all of my nut covers with me at the time of IVA & fit them once the tester has inspected the fixings ;)
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its always a good idea to cover ones nuts :D cheers andy |
Just a point on exposing you're nuts.....:eek:
On Ash's test, the dear tester made us remove all the covers. So Ash had to completely expose his nuts. It was bloody freezing that day as well......:rolleyes: :D |
Trust you David :D :D
That's probably where I read about exposing your nuts. Twas about then I hatched the cunning plan to leave my nuts exposed for the tester & cover them up once he'd seen them :eek: :D |
Im in for a set please mate + Covers
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My back of the envelope calculation puts the weight of the kit at around 3200 g, which means postage would be around £20 if split into two Airmail small packets. I guess that leaves me out :(
I think the rear upright lower bolt will be shorter. Upright - 120 mm. 2 bushes: 100 mm. 2 washers - 3 mm. Nylock nut - 12 mm. 2 more spins of the thread - 3.5 mm. Total: 238.5 mm. Seeing as this is the bolt that interferes with 14" steel wheels for some people, I'd keep it at minimum. I would also suggest adding front upright strut pinch bolts, M12x45, to the kit. |
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I have put a copy of the list in the first post of this thread ;) |
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Like you say, the only reliable way of getting them out to you would be by Airmail & yes, split into two packages to avoid the 2kg weight limit :rolleyes: Thank's for the info Albert .... I will go through the lengths thouroughly before I order up, want to get it spot on. Would you think the upright pinch bolts would need to be stronger that 8.8's ? Your thoughts would be most welcome :) . |
I'm a complete numpty at mechanical engineering and don't have a clue about how to calculate the tensile load on that bolt, but I can just about make out an 8.8 rating on the original Sierra bolts.
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I guess at 8.8 the thread would yield before the bolts yeild point & there won't be any real torsional load on the bolts as such. If 8.8's were good enough for Ford, they'll be good enough for me :D |
Could i be added to the list thankyouplease :D
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Two sets left to go & that will take care of a full box of the longest bolts ;) |
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I'll be in for a set as well please Bonzo + nut covers
Cheers Luke |
Put me down for a set including nut covers
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-------------- Geeman No problem sending you a set, minus the diff bolts .... This will only reduce the cost a little as I have found a source where I can buy those individually at about 50p each |
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------------------------------------------- That's 10 sets :cool: I'll leave this run a while .... I don't have a problem in buying another box of 20 of the longest bolts in order to make up more sets. It would be a real pitty for anyone to miss out on the chance to buy a bolt kit at wholesale prices :) |
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Thanks:) |
Added to the list Geeman :)
Let me know if you want the nut covers as well ;) If folk look at the list on the first post in this thread & want / don't want nut covers, let me know so as I can keep the list up to date :) |
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Me to please and nut covers to.
Terry |
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Hi Ronnie, could you add me to your list please, bolts and covers.
cheers, tony. |
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