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Johnnybizzle 28th March 2010 05:29 PM

Anoth Fuel Pump Question
 
Hi, Guys,

My bike engine an loom originally had no fuel pump, but now using a fireblade pump which ive put close to the tank. My question having limited knowledge of electics is where does it need to be connected to the loom to turn on when ignition is turned on also been told 5 amp cable and fuse is enough,

Any help appreiciated, gotta get some supplies for next weekends 'get it started Mission'

regards Jon

twinturbo 28th March 2010 05:43 PM

You will want an inertia cut off,

Is there an ECU on that engine that controls the pump? if not your probably best fitting a tachimetric ( spelling? ) fuel pump relay.

TT

Johnnybizzle 28th March 2010 06:10 PM

TT,

The fuel was gravity fed carbs, ive been told that these pumps cut out when fuel pressure builds up.

where will i be able to get a relay from?

thanks for fast response

JB

twinturbo 28th March 2010 08:52 PM

A pump relay for a car running Bosch K-Jettronic ( 16V Golf, Early Audi 80's and 100's , XR4i) also Peugot GTi's had them I think.

The Tach relay senses ignition pulses and cuts the fule supply when the inition pulse goes dead.

You an get a good inertia cutoff from the engine bay of a rover 200, or from a sierra EFi ( wheel well up to 1990, drivers kick pannel 90> )

TT

deezee 1st April 2010 09:34 AM

What's the result of wiring the Fuel pump to come on when the ignition is on? This is how mine is currently set up (On kwacker bike carbs)

twinturbo 1st April 2010 01:58 PM

Well if you have a crash and the fuel lines rupture then you will just pump fuel everywhere and end up engulfed in a fireball.

And with a Tachi, if you fuel line splits then the engine will die and cut the fuel.

Personaly, fitting a tach or inertia cutoff seems like a reasonable precaution.

TT

deezee 1st April 2010 03:03 PM

Right OK. Suppose its not going to help much with a fuel leak because the carbs would have to run dry before the engine cutting out stops the pump. See what you mean about a crash though, doubt anyone is going to try an pull me from my car if its covered in petrol!

Johnnybizzle 3rd April 2010 07:02 PM

DeeZee,

how and where did you wire up the pump to the ignition??? had a look today, totally lost with it, project get her fired up was stopped by flat battery, goin to wire it up as temporary measure and and take advice from TT and add a relay as and when i can get one.

deezee 3rd April 2010 07:33 PM

I'm using the donor Sierra relay/fuse box. I stripped out all the useless wiring (heaters,wipers,stereo,interior lighting etc) and removed the redundant relays and fuses from the box. The fuse box, despite being off a carbed 1.8cvh, actually contains the wiring for the fuel pump off an EFI model car. I just made it live again by providing a feed (black with a red stripe I think?) and re using a, now unused, relay.

twinturbo 3rd April 2010 08:36 PM

Note: The sierra fuel pump relay is just a power relay. It should be used in conjunction with the inertia cutoff.

TT


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