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SteveH1 4th June 2015 02:43 PM

Steveh1's build
 
Hi all
Im starting a roadster/ satern mx5 build
I have the book on order just waiting anxiously for it to arrive but in the mean time ive to do some prep work like cleaning the shed and painting the walls and the floors. Also ineed a heavier power supply in the shed to power the welder so that will keep me busy for a few weeks.

Are the mx5 plans in the book or do i need to use saturn plans to complement this.
Are the wishbone tubes a standard size pipe or is it easier to jus order them from ebay or the likes.
Also any tips or advice frim the pros.

Are there any builder in ireland

Thanks
Steve

garyt 4th June 2015 11:09 PM

Hi and welcome to the mad house :) If going the book / saturn way then you need to use the book and the Saturn together along with the list of corrections.
Alternatively speak to Phil at talon motorsport as he uses a new diff case to mount as per the sierra build , it replaces the long diff arms, I hard mounted my diff with the long arms just replaced the rubber mounts with solid.
Read any of the build threads and pick ideas , pitfalls etc from those, feel free to look over my build photos.
Don't forget we have all made mistakes and had problems so don't be afraid to ask any questions no matter how small.
Good luck, Gary

TheArf 5th June 2015 09:34 AM

Welcome to the house of fun, remember the only stupid question is the one you didn't ask, and be careful of who you trade with on ebay, there are a few not so good suppliers for the haynes on there, Rogue engineering being one, I speak from experience

Arfon

RichardH 5th June 2015 11:52 AM

i am building a mx5 based roadster at the minute, chassis about ready for paint, using talons flatpack and wishbones, have a look at my build on roadster builders

K4KEV 5th June 2015 01:22 PM

Welcome Steve...looking forward to watching your build evolve...ask away when stuck, we all can usually suggest a solution to almost any issue that may arise

SteveH1 5th June 2015 02:34 PM

Thanks for the warm welcomes
The idea has been a the back of my mind for the last 15 years since i got ron campions book.
So no time like the present.

Can anybody reccommended reputable e bay sellers.
Also do people weld up the open ends of the square bar on the chassis

CTWV50 7th June 2015 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveH1 (Post 100756)
Also do people weld up the open ends of the square bar on the chassis

Welcome and yep weld em up.

voucht 8th June 2015 12:26 PM

Hi and welcome!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveH1 (Post 100756)
Also do people weld up the open ends of the square bar on the chassis

A good solution is to use pieces of 20x20 square section tubes to obstruct the ends of the 25x25 tubes. I made a post on my blog about this:
http://vouchtroadster.blogspot.se/20...-end-caps.html

Not my idea, but I tried it and it is very easy and gives a very nice result.

Good luck with your build :)

Numplumb 8th June 2015 01:07 PM

Hi SteveH1 Welcome
I bought plastic square caps which knock into the frame tight you can remove and wax oil etc in the future and then replace/renew them etc.

Regards Mick.

SteveH1 8th June 2015 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by voucht (Post 100793)
Hi and welcome!



A good solution is to use pieces of 20x20 square section tubes to obstruct the ends of the 25x25 tubes. I made a post on my blog about this:
http://vouchtroadster.blogspot.se/20...-end-caps.html

Not my idea, but I tried it and it is very easy and gives a very nice result.

Good luck with your build :)

Thanks for the replies this is a handy tip thanks.
No doubt ill be back with loads of questions in the future but for the moment ill plug away with the cleaning and getting the place painted.

SteveH1 8th June 2015 10:48 PM

Hi All
My book came today :)
Just had a quick flick through but doesnt seen to be much about the chassis table

Like how many legs did people put on there bench.
And what height did people build their bench at.
Thanks
Stephen

vmax1974 9th June 2015 12:33 AM

Hi I built my table about 900mm high and 4 legs make the top from the thickest sheet of ply you can get and still brace the underside to eliminate the chance of it sagging time spent bracing and getting it right will save massive headaches later

good luck

Rosco 9th June 2015 08:44 AM

Good luck mate!

CTWV50 9th June 2015 11:34 AM

Pick your wood carefully as getting a straight piece will save you time planing and truing. 1" thick MDF as a table top is my recommendation but don't get it wet. Also use lots of wood glue.

Badger 9th June 2015 09:35 PM

I'd be tempted to keep your eyes open for a steel tubular table or something similar and clamp the wood on top - alternatively make the top of the table only and mount it on steel trestles.
The reason for this is that once the chassis is made and tacked strongly together it is very useful to be able to get at it from all angles at a reasonable height.

Here's my build table (and the project before my Roadster):


RichardH 11th June 2015 08:30 AM

i went to a local salvage place dealing in office furniture, i bought three school tables like you would find at primary school, about 4'x2' , they have 25mm box section legs then i bolted 4x2 timber along both sides then sheeted with ply over the top. now i am further on i took out the middle table for working on the engine area and the front and rear is still supported on the other two tables

SteveH1 20th September 2015 09:56 PM

So i got my table built a few weeks ago and decided to put adjustable legs on it as the floor in my shed is rubbish
Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr



Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

SteveH1 20th September 2015 10:06 PM

I got my welder during the week its a Swp redline 210
I got it as a package including gas and wire for 750 euro.
i assembled it and it seemed a bit cheap like typical chinese stuff but to my surprise it welded really well

First welds by stephen harborne, on Flickr
The first welds
First welds by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Welder by stephen harborne, on Flickr
The welder

SteveH1 20th September 2015 10:15 PM

So i havnt got my steel yet i will be ordering it tomorrow
But i had some 3 inch angle iron so i started to make a bench for my vice

Vice and bench by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Then i stripped down the vice as its old and looked a bit worse for wear
i then took a wire brush to it


before
Vice and bench by stephen harborne, on Flickr

After
Vice and bench by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Just needs to be painters up now

K4KEV 20th September 2015 11:01 PM

Way to go Steve ....as good as any of our kick off's.

NeilW 21st September 2015 12:34 PM

Great to see another build starting. Good luck and keep posting.

SteveH1 28th September 2015 11:26 PM

More toys
 
More toys by stephen harborne, on Flickr

anyone any tips for using one of these

SteveH1 29th September 2015 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TalonMotorFabrication (Post 101865)
Always keep good blade tension it will stretch a very small amount, plenty of good quality coolant as it also acts as lube and will keep the blade sharper for longer, buy a constant pitch tooth blade 10 or 14 tpi not a vari pitch you will shear the bigger teeth off, don't be tempted to let it drop through the material too quick.

Cheers
There is no coolant system on it but was gonna use an oil can to help keep it lubed.

TalonMotorFabrication 29th September 2015 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveH1 (Post 101866)
Cheers
There is no coolant system on it but was gonna use an oil can to help keep it lubed.

I use one of these hand held manual, gravity fed, multi machine, universal coolant pumps.


SteveH1 29th September 2015 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TalonMotorFabrication (Post 101867)
I use one of these hand held manual, gravity fed, multi machine, universal coolant pumps.


Nice
What coolant do you use
Wouldmean i have to build a drip tray also.
How many cuts would you get from a blade

SteveH1 1st October 2015 09:17 AM

So im hoping to to start cutting the steel at the weekend and im using the saturn plans and i was just wondering if there are any adjustments i should make from people's experience

flyerncle 1st October 2015 11:19 AM

If it is the latest book it should have the updates in and they are on here if you are stuck.

Have fun .:eek:

SteveH1 5th October 2015 11:31 PM

So i got around to finally starting my build
and after about an hour of messing around with the the saw
i did the first cut

First cut by stephen harborne, on Flickr

SteveH1 7th October 2015 09:23 PM

So while posting the above post the other night the baby stated crying so i didnt get around to finishing it

Any how i didn't just do i cut and leave it
I cut all the bottom rails and the uprights and started tacking them together the only one being the problem was the 78 degree angle but after a bit of grinding it was grand

Chassis first pics by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Chassis first pics by stephen harborne, on Flickr

SteveH1 7th October 2015 09:32 PM

So its quiet in work at the moment so i managed to get the rest of the week off and i got a few hours in the shed this afternoon.

so i tackled the front frame first of all and thanks to the handy guides worked out perfectly first time

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

SteveH1 7th October 2015 10:16 PM

I think she knows when im posting she cried again but all good now

Anyway then i got some of the uprights and top rails tacked in place

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Then i got a few more rails cut
And thats how it stands at the moment

CTWV50 7th October 2015 10:38 PM

Nice workshop! Good start by the way.:)

SteveH1 8th October 2015 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTWV50 (Post 101945)
Nice workshop! Good start by the way.:)

Thanks if only i ha vehicular access id be laughing

SteveH1 9th October 2015 12:02 AM

I started on the seat back today

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

So when should i start welding it up fully

Rosco 9th October 2015 10:02 AM

looking good, building the chassis is great, its the best bit i think,

as for welding, i did mine once everything was tacked, one think i would say is don't weld the front frame until you have got your front suspension brackets lined up on the jig, because on mine we had a gap behind the upper bracket so we had to slit the weld and tease the front frame leg out a little

hope this makes sence and good look with your build

SteveH1 10th October 2015 12:24 PM

Hi All.
Do people put the trans tunnel in before or after the rear suspension frame work
Thanks
Stephen

SteveH1 10th October 2015 09:44 PM

I got some more of the side rails and seat back supports in place

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

SteveH1 10th October 2015 09:45 PM

Also some of the diagonals

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

And my helpers

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Rosco 11th October 2015 09:59 AM

I think i did the tunnel before i moved it forwards on the table,

SteveH1 13th October 2015 09:14 PM

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

Untitled by stephen harborne, on Flickr

I got the rest of the diagonals and seat back finished


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