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vmax1974 14th December 2015 08:38 AM

After what seems like weeks of wet flatting and polishing I finally have the moulds to a point where I am happy with them so this week I will pull a fresh master from the nosecone mould as I want to make a new mould eventually but now the order book is open

dont expect much before the new year but a will be taking 50% deposits and the remainder when the parts are ready for delivery/ collection

flyerncle 14th December 2015 03:24 PM

Black dash panel,COD as just up the road from you,and soon as you like.

vmax1974 15th December 2015 08:52 PM

First parts made today funny how everything comes flooding back really quickly anyway here is the first part a dash blank

flyerncle 16th December 2015 08:04 AM

Looking good ;)

TalonMotorFabrication 17th December 2015 10:51 AM

I've been looking at how the moulds are made and I have to ask why do they all the same flaws? I went to college to do industrial model making and we where taught that if you can incorporate a clean radious edge or dead edge to the moulds then you don't have the over spill of the fibres and resin. If you use woven roven or cloth up to the edges it makes them stronger and cuts down on the chance of chipping the gel during trimming, it adds to the cost of production but it cuts down the chance of producing seconds. Also making a split mould seemed rather more desirable rather than just removing the return edges and back filling the edges with plasticine to produce the edges.

TheArf 17th December 2015 11:36 AM

Phil, for god sake take a chill pill, the guy is making an attempt to sort out a supply of body parts, criticise others when your own house is fully in order.
you have threatened all sorts of developments etc, but we all know that empty vessels make the most noise.

Merry Christmas

Arfon

vmax1974 17th December 2015 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TalonMotorFabrication (Post 102550)
I've been looking at how the moulds are made and I have to ask why do they all the same flaws? I went to college to do industrial model making and we where taught that if you can incorporate a clean radious edge or dead edge to the moulds then you don't have the over spill of the fibres and resin. If you use woven roven or cloth up to the edges it makes them stronger and cuts down on the chance of chipping the gel during trimming, it adds to the cost of production but it cuts down the chance of producing seconds. Also making a split mould seemed rather more desirable rather than just removing the return edges and back filling the edges with plasticine to produce the edges.

I can only work with the tools I have

vmax1974 17th December 2015 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TalonMotorFabrication (Post 102550)
I've been looking at how the moulds are made and I have to ask why do they all the same flaws? I went to college to do industrial model making and we where taught that if you can incorporate a clean radious edge or dead edge to the moulds then you don't have the over spill of the fibres and resin. If you use woven roven or cloth up to the edges it makes them stronger and cuts down on the chance of chipping the gel during trimming, it adds to the cost of production but it cuts down the chance of producing seconds. Also making a split mould seemed rather more desirable rather than just removing the return edges and back filling the edges with plasticine to produce the edges.

that makes no sense to me but I can only work with the tools I have but if I have learned anything from 20 years on and off of fibreglass experience those who can't.... teach!

K4KEV 17th December 2015 05:56 PM

Ok calm down guys...one thing is for certain Dave has had the balls to take this on and if nobody else had then we would all be at a loss as to where the next set of body panels would come from or be able to order rather than searching ebay or whatever for used or seconds. Constructive criticism has its place but not at the beginning of his venture....support is what Dave needs right now, I'm sure he will amend /modify his moulds to make it both easier for himself or improve quality as and when it is required .....the guy cannot run before he has walked first.

flyerncle 18th December 2015 08:11 AM

Its sensible for all that this should be the end of the conversation....;) And the product speaks for itself.


See you tomorrow Dave.


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