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Tatey 31st October 2010 12:53 PM

1.8 Zetec Clutch
 
I am nearing the stage of putting the engine into my chassis, so i'm now needing to buy a clutch and flywheel for my 1.8 zetec (pre 95 engine).

Could anyone tell me if the following clutch would be suitable? And also why it is so cheap?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-FOCUS-1-6...e#ht_936wt_698

flyerncle 31st October 2010 01:45 PM

Av Taylor sell cheap stuff,mickey mouse brands ok for kerbside motors but not much use for any other than a quick fix to sell a car.Pay the extra for a known brand,wont be much more.

Bonzo 31st October 2010 03:48 PM

Hi Simon

If like me, you are fitting an early 1.8 Zetec ( Mines a 1992 Silver Top )
You will need a Mk 1 Mondeo 1.6/1.8 clutch & then you will have to source a clutch release bearing .... Quninton Hazel part no: CCT133

Here's a link to the sort of kit that should be suitable

Mondeo Mk1 clutch

I'll have a look in the QH guide for you in a while .... Just to check the spine size is suitable .... Don't jump in & buy one just yet ;) :eek:

Of course I am assuming that you are using the type 9 gearbox :D

The standard 1.8 flywheel should be fine as is.

You will need to fit a spigot bearing into the Zetecs crankshaft at the flywheel end ( Easy to order from ford or ebay, exactly the same as the original Sierra one )

Mine is all fitted up & looks like it will work a treat :)

Coozer 31st October 2010 04:05 PM

Seconded, Bonzo's setup is the same as mine and now has nearly 5K miles on it.

Tatey 31st October 2010 04:07 PM

Thanks for the helpful post Bonzo!

Just so I can create a cut and clear list for future reference. To go from an early 1.8 silvertop zetec (pre 95) to a Type 9 gearbox I will need a 1.8 clutch from a MK1 mondeo, a spigot bearing from a Sierra, a 1.8 mk1 mondeo flywheel and a clutch release bearing (I'm sure I've read somewhere that these are common Ford Capri bearings?).

So that means that the following should get my bare engine mounted to my type 9 gearbox with no issues:

1.8 Clutch - MK1 Mondeo
Spigot Bearing - Ford Sierra
1.8 Flywheel - MK1 Mondeo (My engine didnt come with a flywheel)
Clutch Release Bearing (CCT133) - Possibly from a Capri
ARP Flywheel Bolts
CVH Starter Motor (Currently Have)
CVH Alternator (Currently Have)
Sierra Sandwhich Plate (Currently Have)

Bonzo 31st October 2010 04:13 PM

Just had a delve through the QH clutch catalogue

The type 9 Sierra gearbox has a 25.4mm ( 1" ) shaft with 23 splines

Looking at the focus stuff it looks as if most have a shaft diameter of 26mm ( Some are missing the diameter ) but the friction plate on them looks to be too large for the Zetec flywheel.

Mk1 mondeo 1.6/1.8

friction plate diameter 220mm X 25.4mm ( 1" ) shaft & 23 splines ;)

Pehaps it would be wise to check with the seller on that ebay listing ( Bit vaugue about the shaft diameter ) ;) :)

Bonzo 31st October 2010 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tatey (Post 47949)
Thanks for the helpful post Bonzo!

Just so I can create a cut and clear list for future reference. To go from an early 1.8 silvertop zetec (pre 95) to a Type 9 gearbox I will need a 1.8 clutch from a MK1 mondeo, a spigot bearing from a Sierra, a 1.8 mk1 mondeo flywheel and a clutch release bearing (I'm sure I've read somewhere that these are common Ford Capri bearings?).

So that means that the following should get my bare engine mounted to my type 9 gearbox with no issues:

1.8 Clutch - MK1 Mondeo
Spigot Bearing - Ford Sierra
1.8 Flywheel - MK1 Mondeo (My engine didnt come with a flywheel)
Clutch Release Bearing (CCT133) - Possibly from a Capri
ARP Flywheel Bolts
CVH Starter Motor (Currently Have)
CVH Alternator (Currently Have)
Sierra Sandwhich Plate (Currently Have)

Yes that's about the sum of it Simon :)

A word of warning when buying the release bearing !!??

The CCT133 bearing was used on only some of the early Capris .... Others used the CCT132 bearing.

I gave one of my local factors the actual part number .... Paid for it up front as it was a special order .... Yep, you guessed it, ended up with a worthless CCT132 bearing :rolleyes:

Ask your factor if they deal with QH & get them to phone the part number in whilst you are there ;)

Here's the difference between the 2 bearings
CCT133 on the right


onedayTM 2nd November 2010 10:44 PM

Hi ronnie,
I also have early silvertop 92/93 model 1.8, I was always under the impression that the standard flywheel and clutch would be ok, I'm a bit miffed now if I've got to change them. What is the difference between them?
cheers,
tony

Bonzo 3rd November 2010 09:21 AM

Hi Tony

I guess a lot will depend on the original source of the engine .... Escort or Mondeo

Have had another look at the QH catalogue, here is some more info

Escort Mk5 1.8 16v (1991/1994 )

Friction plate diameter 220mm .... Input shaft 19mm X 17 splines ( Won't fit the type 9 gearbox ).

Some Escort Mk5's were fitted with the MTX75 gearbox ( XR3i & RS !!?? )
These were fitted with the following size friction plate .... Plate diameter 240mm .... Input shaft 25.4 X 23 splines ( Will fit the type 9 gearbox )

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Mondeo Mk1 1.6/1.8 16v ( 1993/1996

Friction plate diameter 220mm .... Input shaft 25.4 X 23 spline ( Will fit the type 9 gearbox )



If your engine came from a Mk1 Mondeo you'll be fine & all you will need to source is a CCT133 release bearing + crankshaft spiggot bearing. :)

If your engine came out of a standard Mk5 Escort 1.8 16v ( Like mine ) you will then have to source a suitable friction plate in addition to the 2 bearings ;)

I hope that is of some help Tony :)

onedayTM 3rd November 2010 10:30 PM

hi ronnie,
thanks for that, mine was a 1.8 xr3i but the 105 bhp not the 130 model, I guess I will need to measure up and see whats what.
cheers
tony


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