Have a duplicate thread on another Forum and some one posted this
I like old school ideas like this.

On bending tubes, my rollcage builder used to pack the tube full of dried silica sand , and plugged the ends with wooden tapered "corks" he'd then redden the whole bend but apply more heat to the outside of the radius, it was unbelievable to see the tube curl around Even as far as 90 degrees. Just make sure the sand is super dry though for safety reasons and packed tight by banging on the ground to force in as much sand as possible.

The vmax ( gillham, nts, Saturn, fabby) body kits use 3 bits of 25mm box at the rear in place of the rounded bars.
I'm sure I read that one of the others (maybe Equinox) leave the rounded tubes in place.

With regard to the shrinkage on the roll bar. If you weld in the harness tube before doing the plates it should help stop it.

Ok thanks for that

I obtained my rear hoops and rp3/d13 from http://www.oweneng.com/shop-1/kit-car-products/

They're a perfect fit with all the tube ends profiled basically ready weld on.

Cheers
Its just normally quiet expensive to get bigger stuff like that sent to ireland
I think ill keep the hoops anyway regardless of what rear tub i use
Just for the extra crash protection if nothing else

Time for a bit of an update
Didnt get much as i would have liked done over christmas but not to worry

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Conditions weren't ideal but got a good deal on the parts i needed and didnt have to strip it in the driveway

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Wiring

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Drive and steering shafts

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prop and diff

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gearbox and manifolds

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Wheels

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More wires

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And engine
1994 1.8
Came apart a lot easier than expected
but my god the amount of wiring it had abs and airbags

So how do people mount the diff on the upper mounts
whats best to keep the rubber mounts or hard mount it
is there there anywhere manufacturing hard mounts

also are people deleting the erg and charcoal canister

great work :) and yes there is miles of wiring (hope you labelled it all )
re the erg and charcoal canister , most bin these bits ( I didn't use them)
re the outer diff mounts, 2 choices really either a new talon diff mount or if keeping as is then hard mount it you will need to get inserts made, there was a build thread that detailed them (stot's or skov's build thread if I remember rightly) getting the old ones out is a pain
no stopping you now :)

Ah there always seems to be some thing stopping me at the moment.
Conditions wernt great while stripping so didnt label at the te but have since done it.
Im building to the saturn plans so ill just hard mount the origional diff so.
Just need to find someone that makes the mounts.

Ok so these diff mounting plates have been a bit of a mental stumbling block for a couple of weeks now so im glad i have them done now

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checking its square

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does this look about right