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brainbug007 18th August 2011 11:26 AM

Will do later when I get home. I've cut the rack mount back out now & will have to remake it. I made it originally to book spec not realizing there was something in the amended one in the annoucements but with my book being fairly new, I would have though it would include these changes? From what I've gleaned from reading around, the arms of the rack should be level with where they'll connect onto the hubs and not go at an upward/downard angle if you look at it from the front of the car. However, should it also be a straight line from the rack out to where it connects onto the hub?

HandyAndy 18th August 2011 12:43 PM

I,ve been following this thread & am a little confused to whats causing the problems :confused:
as dave has suggested photo,s would be good :)

With regard the column extension going past the diagonal...to solve this I made my extension "stepped" so that as it passes that diagonal it gives plenty of clearance .

I,ve used a group 4 coupling at the rack end & then used the triangular Ford part at the upper part of the column extension to where it joins the column that goes thru the bulkhead ( not sure if that makes sense :o )

cheers
andy

brainbug007 18th August 2011 01:09 PM

I guess in a nut shell I'm stuck on how to position my rack so it doesn't foul on the diagonal and I don't end up with bad bump steer? Not sure what you mean about a stepped extension, could you post a pic of it as it may be the solution I need :) For the coupling, it sounds like I may have got the wrong one.. I'm guessing you've used one of these http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product...oducts_id=7333. I understand that one end will have a spline that goes onto the rack, but what I don't get is how you connect the extension onto this as the end of my extension has a triangle shape? (hence why I used the sierra->escort coupling).

davedew 18th August 2011 01:18 PM

Attached are a couple od pictures of my steering.

The first is the upper section of the steering columns. The triangular part is uppermost in the pictures.



The next picture shows the cut and extended lower section of the standard Sierra column. The end that fits the triangular section is uppermost with the splied coulping at the other end.

The bit of tube I used to extend it was a piece of seamless tube left over from the lower wishbones. It gets close to the diagonal, 3-4mm. But it doesn't touch and that is all that matters.


HandyAndy 18th August 2011 01:24 PM

Dave beat me too it, nice one Dave.
Mines the same as Daves at the upper end ( triangular part ) but my lower end of the extension doesn,t have the rubber coupling as i,ve changed mine to the group4 coupling.




Yes , thats the coupling i,ve used in conjunction with a splined shaft from Rally Design. so imagine the order of placement as this ......

rack....group4 coupling....splined shaft ( fits the coupling splines ).....thick walled tubing......once passed the diagonal U2 ......more slightly thicker walled tubing ( this is my meaning of stepped :o )......the triangular Ford part with the rubber coupling cut off......then the triangular clamp end fits onto the collapsible part of the column that goes thru the bulkhead.


I,ll try and find a pic and post it up.

When you say "diagonal" ... I presume you mean part "U2" ?

The placement of the rack itself shouldn,t cause a problem if parts CP19,20 & 21 have been welded into the correct postion.

cheers
andy

brainbug007 18th August 2011 01:25 PM

That's pretty much how I did mine dave, the only thing that I changed was the coupling on the end with the spline as the spline off mine was too big to fit onto the escort rack. hence why I bought the sierra->escort coupling off rally design. but i think the rack position must have been wrong somehow to cause the extension and coupling with the spline fouling on the diagonal?

HandyAndy 18th August 2011 01:33 PM

here,s mine fitted into the chassis.




you can just about see the group 4 coupling at the rack end, the upper end is as per Daves pictures.


brainbug007 18th August 2011 01:42 PM

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Ok this is maybe where I've gone wrong then. The bendable bits are called univeral joints I think? Well I've got two of those in my setup where as yours seems to only have one? Mine kind of goes rack -> escort/sierra coupling from rd -> extension -> top coupling (both inputs are triangle shapped, this came off my donor) -> steering column/wheel. this crude picture may help..

HandyAndy 18th August 2011 02:09 PM

I have the group4 coupling at the rack end & the original Ford coupling at the bulkhead end ( but as with previously mentioned...the rubber coupling from the original Ford column where it used to attach to the rack removed & the triangular coupling part welded into my extension, as per this pic below)



hope this helps
cheers
andy

brainbug007 18th August 2011 02:14 PM

Ya I think so, it sounds like if I get a group 4 coupling and one of these http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product...ducts_id=11805 I could just re-make my extension as this splined steering column shaft would just go inside the extension to be welded up and it has a smaller outside diameter than the extension tube? (I used 25.4mm od I think). Then I guess all I need to do is get the rack back in the right position so that when the trackrods are connected to the hubs, the rack arms are level and let out an equal amount on both sides?


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