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jesse 9th March 2009 09:16 PM

Thanks David,

Your car is nice and you're a lucky man.

According to your comments, I need to keep all the english receipts so that means I need to buy all the parts, materials and the donor car in England ?


dogwood 10th March 2009 08:54 AM

Hi Jesse

I have sent you a Private message.

Not sure how you would get on using a French registered car as a donor.
In theory I can see no problems, but this is the British system you are dealing with..:mad:

Flyerncle... It's a Renault 4 Forgon...Picture taken in France.
I'm thinking of a BEC conversion for it...:eek: :D


Regis 11th March 2009 12:24 AM

hi guys
i m building a haynes roadster too, not finished
i was thinking to register it in england, i'm in france
but what s the difference between SVA and IVA?


dogwood 11th March 2009 08:57 AM

The main difference is £300 plus at last count...:mad:

SVA £190...IVA £500 plus...

The rest is not too bad for a Haynes Roadster.
As I understand it, the IVA has not been finalised so who knows...


flyerncle 11th March 2009 01:01 PM

Dont do it David save the engine for something good !
Sorry Renault lovers !

dogwood 12th March 2009 08:36 AM

Yea.. But think of the looks I would get when I started it up in the local supermarket carpark....:D :D


flyerncle 13th March 2009 05:52 PM

I have seen a 2cv avec V8 !

jesse 15th March 2009 09:06 PM

Hi David,

Thanks for your infos. I've spend the last days to get information about SVA standard test and french regulations. It seems that the IVA will replaced the SVA in April, according to the N° 2007/46/CE european directive, as well as our french "single vehicule approval".

But I haven't managed to find a complete list (with all the dimensions (mirrors, lights position, seats and belts anchorages...), values (exhausts emissions, brakes, noise...) that are checked during SVA tests.

I think you brought your car to SVA test in january 2009, so you must have follow a checklist to be sure about the SVA compliance.
But there are still lots of questions without responses yet.

Is your car based on a Ford Sierra donor car ? What are your car's caracteristics ?

In this case, for example, the age of your car will be the one of the donor car or it will be considered as a new vehicule ?
And what about the exhauts emissions rule ?

Once your car have passed the test, do you receive a conformity certificate (conformity to english regulations ? To european regulations (I think maybe with the IVA test) ?

What is a BEC conversion ? (I'm speaking of your Renault 4 Fourgon, of course).



dogwood 16th March 2009 10:19 AM

Hi Jesse.

Wow a lot of questions....

Easy one first...
you will read a lot of people refering to BEC and CEC
This is BEC = Bike engined car. CEC = Car engined car

A lot of people are now using big bike engines for their cars (BEC)
They make good track cars because of the power to weight is so good.
Personaly I prefer a standard car engine for the road (CEC)

My car is based on a Ford Sierra 1987 with a standard 1800cc Pinto engine
So the car is registered as a 1987
The emissions are also based on a 1987

The SVA test is to check it conforms to British regulations
I think the new IVA will need to conform to European regulations
(I'm not entirly sure about this) And yes the SVA is due to finish in April.
The IVA regulations ( As I understand it) have not been finalised yet, so cannot say how they will be different from the SVA test.

I built my car up during all of 2008, basicly exactly to the Haynes Roadster book. So I knew it would be OK for the SVA test.

The good thing about this Forum and also the locostbuilders.co.uk Forum
You can ask questions whilst you are building. Because you will find people have already found the answers to most of the problems you are lightly to encounter. So there is always some one that can give you the answer you are looking for.

Just one thing Jesse Mate......How come your English speling is better than mine?????? LOL


fabbyglass 17th March 2009 05:55 PM

It seems the SVA is defunct yet the powers that be haven't issued the new regs for IVA so how can anyone build to a set of regs that don't really exist.
Regs on seats keep changing so christ knows what else will and how often.:confused: ...politicians really get up my beak.....:p !!!

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