Thanks landlocked,the point I have been trying to get through to these young guys (in particular) is that they are "happy to spend with a shovel" on fancy wheels ,engines,guages,paint, etc,and "save with a teaspoon" by purchasing poor quality clamps,cheap hacksaw blades,rubbish work tables that wouldnt even be strong enough for my wifes stained glass hobbies and cheap Chinese tools,some of which are OK but most of which are not.They will still own quality tools as I do,50 years later but their Roadster will be a distant memory,plus most of these young guys will be "bitten by the bug"and go on to make other cars, boats ,trailers,caravans, etc during there lifetime,and will be pleased that they had the good sense to buy,or make quality tools.David
