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Old 23rd March 2011, 08:50 AM
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Ok I am about to make some bones and and I would love to know why was it decided that 19mm seamless was the way to go for top wishbones? Why not 18mm or 20mm?

From what I am led to believe, in industry, 18mm and 20mm are by far the more frequently used tubes and hence far more easily obtained by the likes of me who is building in true locost style and trying to spend nothing whatsoever

I am just a little curious to know where the 19mm came from particularaly as i have about 5m of 18mm hydraulic seamless with a 2.65 wall (I think) which was very kindly donated to the cause lying in my workshop.

So what do you guys think; should I throw caution to the wind and use the 18mm tube?
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Old 23rd March 2011, 11:13 AM
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Ok I am about to make some bones and and I would love to know why was it decided that 19mm seamless was the way to go for top wishbones? Why not 18mm or 20mm?

From what I am led to believe, in industry, 18mm and 20mm are by far the more frequently used tubes and hence far more easily obtained by the likes of me who is building in true locost style and trying to spend nothing whatsoever

I am just a little curious to know where the 19mm came from particularaly as i have about 5m of 18mm hydraulic seamless with a 2.65 wall (I think) which was very kindly donated to the cause lying in my workshop.

So what do you guys think; should I throw caution to the wind and use the 18mm tube?
You are correct 20mm is more readily available and I know many have used it. Although someone with real engineering experience will probbaly come along with reasons why not to, if I had the 18mm costing nothing I'd use it. Sometimes I wonder if Chris used certain sizes simply because he had them available? I may get shot for that comment.

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Old 23rd March 2011, 12:18 PM
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Maybe it's because 19mm is the closest to 3/4 inch? If he had 3/4 inch to hand, used that then converted it to metric it would have come out at 19mm.
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Old 23rd March 2011, 12:28 PM
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Maybe it's because 19mm is the closest to 3/4 inch? If he had 3/4 inch to hand, used that then converted it to metric it would have come out at 19mm.
Yep that's my view too

Wishbones have traditionaly made from 1" & 3/4" tube, probably going way back to the original Lotus 7

As Enoch said, this equates to 25mm & 19mm in metric.

If memory serves me right, the original lo-cost had wishbones made from 1.6mm wall thickness tube !!??

Personaly, I would use the 18mm tube that you have to hand, the wall is certianly thick enough.
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Old 23rd March 2011, 01:57 PM
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i used 20mm because it was what i had look at the top wishbones on a caterham they are about 15mm
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Old 23rd March 2011, 02:18 PM
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Most if not all Kit Car firms use 14swg ERW not CDS
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Old 23rd March 2011, 12:25 PM
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You can use 18-20-22-25mm -3/4" 7/8" 1" CDS if you want for the top wishbones or even ERW if your saving money although I would'nt go lower than 2mm wall. I've done a few pairs of top fronts in 25mm tube and they look quite chunky. I would not use hyd. grade CDS though as it's anealed so it can be formed to tight bends.
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