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Old 13th August 2013, 09:13 PM
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Default Brake bleeding

How long should it take to bleed brake lines from dry? I have just been trying but with no success. I have also tried my eazibleed kit and that's not working either?

Has anyone got any ideas what I'm doing wrong or is my master cylinder knackered? (Mx5)

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Old 13th August 2013, 10:02 PM
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Took me about half an hour
I used a syringe to inject fluid in through the caliper bleed nipples.
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Old 13th August 2013, 10:04 PM
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If your mx5 has abs, it may need to go on the computer to be bled via the abs pump. My golf was an absolute cow & had to go on the vag system. If it hasn't got abs, I would start checking for loose fittings. Maybe the system is sucking a little bit of air from somewhere, and air compresses easier than fluid. If this is still playing up after a quick check, I would strip the master cylinder and fit new springs & seals to it. Master cylinder rebuild kits are available on the net for about £25. Oh, have you tried bleeding the clutch ? Think it all works off the same system on the mx5. But you may need to confirm this.
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Old 13th August 2013, 10:15 PM
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Thanks.

I will try again tomorrow. I got the occasional bubble in the jar but didn't seem to be getting any fluid coming out.

I will try putting some in with a syringe as well


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Old 14th August 2013, 01:33 AM
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David ...I bled mine from dry and simply started from the nearest to the MC and then the next nearest and so on then re-bled the whole lot in reverse order try it and see.
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Old 14th August 2013, 09:24 AM
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David,

If theres nothing but air coming out the calipers, whats the fluid level doing in the reservoir?

If its dropping, the fluid must be going somewhere. Check all around the lines/joints/calipers for leaks. If theres no leaks, keep at it.

If the level doesn't change, you've probly got a blockage somewhere.
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Old 14th August 2013, 10:49 AM
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thanks


i will try again tonight and keep going a bit longer!!

when I did the clutch I used the eezibleed which worked a trick. it doesn't work well with the brakes as i had to buy a really large universal cap that doesn't seal very well.

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Old 14th August 2013, 11:02 AM
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If the master cylinder is lower than the calipers you may have a problem at first getting the fluid to the calipers.

Possibly open the bleed screws with the calipers hanging down and let them drip and see what happens .

Have a look and make sure piston is not stuck in.
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Old 14th August 2013, 12:11 PM
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Not that I have any first hand experience of this task - but isn't there a way you can fill with fluid from the caliper end? Or have I imagined that? Would that help at all?
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Having gone through quite a brake saga on my car - first check that your master cylinder is bled. Take the pipes out and fit bleed nipples into each port. Then pick a nipple and put a hose on it looped back into the reservoir. Now pump the fluid round and round until you see no air. Also worth tapping the master cylinder. Push slowly and quickly to move any stubborn air. Repeat for each port. Then connect up one line at a time and pump the fluid through (or use the easibleed). If using an easibleed you might want to give the pedal a pump every so often with the easibleed connected. Repeat for each line until you get a good solid pedal. An most importantly make sure your master cyl push rod is long enough!
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