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Old 19th September 2010, 10:39 PM
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Default Zetec Whats needed?

As above i'm planning on using the zetec out of my mk5 escort.

I've got a copy of Classic Ford and in there, they are dropping a Zetec into a mk2 escort and it says I need a new water rail and a water pump that rotates the other way, Then on another page it says the water rail is only needed as it would foul the bulkhead of the Escort but as it is going into a kit car this should not be a problem right?

The sump is another major factor I need to fabricate.

With regards to the water pump rotating in the opposite direction is this right? as I thought the engine cooling system was designed to flow one way??

Please help as I know there are some people using a zetec.

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Old 19th September 2010, 10:51 PM
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On a blacktop zetec the water pump spins in the opposit direction to the rest of the pullies. Not sure on a silvertop zetec.

As for the sump, it needs shortening. From the top of the sump to the bottom needs to measure 6" all the way round, which also means you need to shorten the oil pick up pipe too.
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Old 19th September 2010, 10:54 PM
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From what the magazine said the black top's water pump turns the right way for a RWD conversion.

Thank you for the Info on the sump.

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Old 20th September 2010, 08:38 PM
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If the pump pulley has ribs it goes clockwise, if its smooth it runs off the back of the belt.

Escort silvertop zetecs have ribs so easy to triangle the belt, Mondeo silvertop zetecs go the other way and need a idle pulley... as do all the blacktops like this:



This is my blacktop installation. No need to change pumps, just run an idler.

With regard to the sump, Escorts have a shorter sump than a Mondeo and I was using a 1.8 Escort zetec in mine unmodified.

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Old 20th September 2010, 08:58 PM
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With the silver top (Mine) i need to run a pump that turns the opposite way?? why the need for the idler is that what you use to turn it the opposit way?

also is there a need to change the water rail?
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The idler's there as that's where the powersteering pump used to be.

Which starter fits the 2 piece sump?

I've got a zetec one, but the bolt holes don't line up. I've tried a pinto one that came with my gearbox, but that's too big.
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Old 20th September 2010, 09:07 PM
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I wasa hoping it was going to be a straight swap engine out engine in?

does anybody know why you have to reverse the water pump and the need for a new water rail?
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The idler's there as that's where the powersteering pump used to be.

Which starter fits the 2 piece sump?

I've got a zetec one, but the bolt holes don't line up. I've tried a pinto one that came with my gearbox, but that's too big.
Sierra 1.8cvh starter motor is commonly used but you need to grind away some of the alloy of the two piece sump in order for it to fit.
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Cheers mark. I've already ground the sump, thinking i'd make the pinto one fit, but didn't succeed.

It the cvh one a smaller diamater? And is there only one type for the 1.8 cvh? Don't want to end up with the wrong one again. Already got 2 useless ones



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does anybody know why you have to reverse the water pump
You're not, you're just keeping it spinning the same way as it's designed to work. If you removed the powersteering pump then just put a belt round the pullies that are left, it would spin the wrong way - putting an idler pulley in solves the problem.
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Ahhhhh cheers for that. how do i got about an idler pulley ie what to do and what pulley to use? I've noticed Coozer's picture shows this (I think?)
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