Suspension Bushes

[3GE Components]

Obvioulsy I can't comment on other companies bush kits, only our own.

We produce our own kits, we don't buy from other companies and add a mark up. We use stainless steel for the crush tubes not mild steel, these are machined from solid bar on a CNC lathe to high tolerances. We don't use thick wall tube cut on a band saw (I've seen this done)

Yes, we are a bit more, but that's because of the cost of the materials and method of manufacture that we use.

For comparison I've listed everyones bush kits below along with a picture of their product, prices include VAT & postage....

GTS.....£64.63



Rally Design....£96.50



Saturn Sports Cars....£108


3GE Components....£112.70




Kind regards

John

[ghostrain]

Originally Posted by 3GE Components

Obvioulsy I can't comment on other companies bush kits, only our own.

We produce our own kits, we don't buy from other companies and add a mark up. We use stainless steel for the crush tubes not mild steel, these are machined from solid bar on a CNC lathe to high tolerances. We don't use thick wall tube cut on a band saw (I've seen this done)

Yes, we are a bit more, but that's because of the cost of the materials and method of manufacture that we use.

For comparison I've listed everyones bush kits below along with a picture of their product, prices include VAT & postage....

GTS.....£64.63



Rally Design....£96.50



Saturn Sports Cars....£108



3GE Components....£112.70




Kind regards

John

Quite one of the most ambiguous postings I have seen on a forum....first of all the photos shown of 8 bushes are all of Rally Design bushes lifted from our website....the copyright of such photos is held by the photographer and permission to reproduce has to be sought from the owner,to my knowledge 3GE components has not sought such permission....one of the leading Rally sport catalogue companies ignored this ownership and once Rally Design and Demon Tweeks lawyers had finished their action the settlement was over £80k,be warned there is often more value in photos and text than the product it shows. OK your photo shows only 8 Rally Design bushes against 22 3GE bushes yet your prices seem to suggest otherwise. Looking on the 3GE Website 22 bushes are listed at £104.70, £4.76 each,the Rally Design Website PB121,Locost bush are £28.00 set 8,£3.50 each....Rally Design is cheaper.
Also our crush tubes are 316 stainless,CNC hi-speed machined,also note that the Polybushes are injection moulded using the correct Shore hardness of polyurethane. Before the get what you pay for brigade come rolling in....the reason our bushes are so competitive is we machine the crush washers 5000 batch and because our poly is injection moulded there is no machined scrap, its all about investment in tooling for the longer term which is why RD are so competitive on so many products. You should ask if the bushes have been machined from the correct hardness of Urethane or Nylon if you want to avoid unnecessary harshness. The method of cold pouring to produce bushes as used by Superflex or Powerflex produces a quality high compliant bush but the amount of hand finishing is why their bushes tend to be expensive.
Don't normally get involved in arguments on these forums but this posting was so misleading and factually incorrect I couldn't resist making a response. By the way great to see so many of you at Stoneleigh.

[vetteman1355]

Just getting started here on our three Canadian builds (two chassis's almost done will post pics soon).
I ordered all the suspension parts needed and chassis plate kits from Andrew at Saturn and am so pleased with the level of service and quality, the shipping cost was very good considering the products came half way across the world and were here in four days. As far as I am concerned this is what makes a company great. I have not dealt with the other companies referred to on this thread but will definitely be buying more parts from Saturn down the road.

Nigel

[Davey]

Silicone grease should be fine Adrian, that's what I intend to use on my final build up.

Interesting that all but 3GE's bush sets use the same photograph?

D.

[degmwilliams]

Still the UK's biggest & cheapest range of parts to suit the Haynes Roadster!

3ge, how can you use this quote under your name when you have listed the price of 4 sets of bushers and pins and you are the most expensive? Isnt it contradicting your slogan? Im not trying to cause an argument but think they are expensive.

[twinturbo]

woooooaaa


lets not get into a supplier slagging match.


TT

[Eternal]

I think 3ge is saying his are different as they are....

"We produce our own kits, we don't buy from other companies and add a mark up. We use stainless steel for the crush tubes not mild steel, these are machined from solid bar on a CNC lathe to high tolerances. We don't use thick wall tube cut on a band saw (I've seen this done)"

So his product is different than the rest and thus is priced different. Im sure he would sell them for less if he was selling the stock item. Well thats the way i see it anyhow lol.

[alga]

FWIW, Saturn also claim their crush tubes are CNC machined in stainless steel. I wonder if the photos let us infer that bushes the same across these three places. Also, the product code on RD is DAR003, which seems to suggest that Darren@GTSTuning is the original supplier.

[spud69]

Just seen this thread as i've been mostly away from the forum for a bit.

Basically i think everyone's bush tubes are the same but its not them that are the expensive part its the stainless crush tubes. The s/s rod is expensive to buy and then you need the facilities to turn and drill the rod to make the thick walled crush tubes. Saturn doesn't have these facilities so we buy them in. Cheaper versions maybe mild steel which will be okay for a bit but will soon rust. There are a few parts that Saturn will sell at just above cost, not to make many but to provide a service to other builders.

A few other people use copper slip grease to lubricate the crush tubes to which will stop most of the greasing but will need re-applying every few thousand miles.

The last thing we need is a slagging match just let people make up their own minds.

(Edit) just noticed the RD reference, please check first as these are not the same size as the Haynes roadster crush tubes. Also the price is for 8 and you will need 22 pairs.

Take it easy.....AndyH

[3GE Components]

Originally Posted by degmwilliams

Still the UK's biggest & cheapest range of parts to suit the Haynes Roadster!

3ge, how can you use this quote under your name when you have listed the price of 4 sets of bushers and pins and you are the most expensive? Isnt it contradicting your slogan? Im not trying to cause an argument but think they are expensive.

Hi Deg,

You're right, not the best of quotes to have for that post

Andy's right, the expensive part is the crush tube, stainless steel is expensive & so is CNC'ing, which is why our bush kits are fairly close on price.

That slogans been there for ages, for reference our prices have remained fixed for nearly 2 years. When the cost of materials started to rise, we kept our prices the same and didn't pass the cost on to the customer, in fact the only time we changed our prices was at the start of the year when we found a cheaper steel supplier for the tube and reduced our prices.

It's also worth remebering to compare like with like, for examle, our chassis's are £770, more expensive than others but they include all the tubes and all the chassis plates, and have a few extra tubes to add rigidity to the chassis, mounts for a Polo radiator and a pedal box welded in place.

We also include postage in our calculations, unless you are very fortunate to live within travelling distance of any of the suppliers this is something you'll have to pay. Back in December we started free postage for all orders, this was something we were able to keep going for 5 months, until the couriers started to increase prices as fuel costs esculated. Even now, the most you will pay is £10 if you are in main land UK, the only exception to this is a complete chassis (as we can't find any courier who's will to deliver one for £10)


Anyway, enough of my waffling....

Kind regards

John