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Old 19th February 2010, 08:14 PM
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what a long day.

She failed but the day was very positive and very friendly. there wasn't really any bad items so should only take a day or two to rectify. Andy the tester was a good laugh but went to the book by the letter which i must applaud. he knew what he was doing inside out and offered some really good advice.

here are the fail points

1.) Noise was 106db at 3700rpm

2.) i need a convex glass in the passenger mirror as the tester had to move his head too much to get the full range of view in that mirror

3.) my t pieces for the brake system were bolted to the chassis using riv nuts. this was deemed unacceptable as there is no locking device. i was advised to drill straight through the tube and use a bolt and nyloc nut on the end. all fixings/items on brake related systems must have a licking device!

4.) my roll bar back stays only had one bolt securing them. they either needed to be welded or have a minimum of two bolts.

5.) heat shrink and glued on rubber is deemed unacceptable for iva. any covering used must be equivalent to something a mass manufacturer would use. this meant i had to remove the heat shrink off the track rod ends which then failed (it was suggested that i used a caterham type item to cover these.)

6.) my universal joint on the steering was too close to the bulk head bearing meaning the collapsible mechanism wouldn't work adequately in an accident.

7.) speedo was out but was aloud to alter it at the time so it is now spot on.

8.) headlights were out but dogwood was aloud to align them for me whilst i sat in the car.

9.) side indicators failed. not because of their position it was because they were actually side markers which had the wrong e mark. the emark they had were for side markers not side indicators. the difference is that side markers have a lot narrower range of visibility than side indicators. you could see them from the back but the light emitted was not strong enough in the required direction.

think that was about it


good news bits

the shocks passed fine even without the rubber boots.

brakes were spot on

self centring was perfect (andy the tester commented that it was very very good for a 7!)

car weighed in at 620kg with full 25l tank and 115kg driver. take driver and fuel off and that's 480kg

emissions were fantastic infact miles under the limit.


Over the course of the day andy gave me lots of fantastic advice on passing the iva. i will do a full write up of all the tips in ckc. it was obvious he was really into his cars and really knew his stuff. all the points he made were fair and well deserved.



it was a good day out very educational and the car was bloody amazing beyond belief to drive. the whole journey there and back the car was totally spot on and didnt miss a single beat

and last of all i must say a really really really big thank you to dave (dogwood) he has slogged his guts out all week helping me and i must say i really couldn't have done it without him and my fail list would have been double the length. he certainly wont be buying any beers or food at stoneleigh this year!!

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Old 19th February 2010, 08:24 PM
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Gosh Ash, you made me blush..

But you are more than welcolme. after all that's what mates are for.
Mind you could have done without the 6am alarm call..
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Old 19th February 2010, 08:30 PM
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Ash,

In a funny sort of way nice one, if you know what I mean.

Is there a book distance for Item 6, only I am about to cut my column to make the extention.

When is the re-test?

It has been like loads of expectant fathers on here today!

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Old 19th February 2010, 08:49 PM
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I expect you are feeling a little dissapointed Ash but not a bad result there

Like you say, it'll not take you long to sort those few things out.

Guess that's the touble with the new IVA .... Still a bit of an unknown quantity for many of us .... The new regs are well documented but the way they are being applied has yet to fully surface.

Got to say, well done mate

What a long day, bet you & David are knackered
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Old 19th February 2010, 09:15 PM
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I'm sure Ash is feeling a little dispondent as well, but he really shouldn't.
The examiner commented more than once on the quality of his welding and build.
I think Ash should be proud (And I'm sure he is) of the way his car turned out.
The only real fail was the noise, which we couldn't try before the test.
The rest would have been almost a fix on the day.
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Old 19th February 2010, 09:24 PM
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I'm sure Ash is feeling a little dispondent as well, but he really shouldn't.
The examiner commented more than once on the quality of his welding and build.
I think Ash should be proud (And I'm sure he is) of the way his car turned out.
The only real fail was the noise, which we couldn't try before the test.
The rest would have been almost a fix on the day.

I agree with that David

Ash should be really proud of the Roadster that he has produced ..... It is a stunning example

If I can't have a first time pass, i'll take that list any day of the week
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1.) Noise was 106db at 3700rpm
Furry Muff

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2.) i need a convex glass in the passenger mirror as the tester had to move his head too much to get the full range of view in that mirror
Let us know what u fit

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3.) my t pieces for the brake system were bolted to the chassis using riv nuts. this was deemed unacceptable as there is no locking device. i was advised to drill straight through the tube and use a bolt and nyloc nut on the end. all fixings/items on brake related systems must have a licking device!
To Quote a meerkat, "SIMPLES"

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4.) my roll bar back stays only had one bolt securing them. they either needed to be welded or have a minimum of two bolts.
Elaborate, is the book design out of spec now.


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5.) heat shrink and glued on rubber is deemed unacceptable for iva. any covering used must be equivalent to something a mass manufacturer would use. this meant i had to remove the heat shrink off the track rod ends which then failed (it was suggested that i used a caterham type item to cover these.)
Oooohhh... Hmmm.. Let us know the fix!!


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6.) my universal joint on the steering was too close to the bulk head bearing meaning the collapsible mechanism wouldn't work adequately in an accident.
Aaaarg... is this likly to be a problem for all of us?


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7.) speedo was out but was aloud to alter it at the time so it is now spot on.
BING


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8.) headlights were out but dogwood was aloud to align them for me whilst i sat in the car.
Bong

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9.) side indicators failed. not because of their position it was because they had the wrong e mark. the emark they had were for side markers not side indicators. the difference is that side markers have a lot narrower range of visibility than side indicators. you could see them from the back but the light emitted was not strong enough in the required direction.
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the shocks passed fine even without the rubber boots.
Can you take a pick for us of this

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Old 19th February 2010, 10:24 PM
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Hi Ash,

I know you feel a little disappointed right now, it was xmas morning when you woke up today but now it's tea time, the bond movie's finished and you didn't get the pressie you really wanted.....
Have a Beer or two and that Curry with Dogwood and you'll soon cheer up when you realise how much you've achieved, especially since the Haynes roadster was designed to pass the SVA test!
I remember a year ago it looked like the IVA would kill most home built kit cars! So ending up with such a short and fixable fail list really isn't that bad (I'd be right chuffed if it was me ) all things considered, and a testiment to your skill and resourcefulness.
This has certainly given me more confidence in my project knowing that an IVA pass is achievable with this design.
What's also important is the value to the rest of us of your IVA experience has had. The first few people through the IVA are pioneers for the rest of us.

Many Thanks and Well Done!
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Hi Ash,

See here for convex glass mirrors and replacement glass

http://www.minispares.com/Product.aspx?ty=pb&pid=37061

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Old 22nd February 2010, 07:02 PM
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Just called in on Ash.
We were discussing the mirrors.
Plus some other bits he failed on that others have passed with ok
Seemed strange mine and several others have passed
with the same mirrors, and his failed.
They are Yamaha R1 mirrors.
Seems they are ok for everyone but him.
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