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Old 16th February 2010, 11:48 PM
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Hi Sean,
thanks for the reply, and thanks to everyone for their replies. I think I will stick to the sierra and then maybe an engine conversion at a later date.

So, for now, anyone know where I can source a cheap Sierra?

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Old 17th February 2010, 12:01 AM
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Sierras are on the up up up price wise.. Partly due to the kit car industry.


A 320 will weigh a lot more than a ton, unless it's an E30 in which case the 320 never made 170BHP, the 325 made just about 173 IIRC in E30 guise..

If we are talling E36 then that would be nearer 1300KG like the sierra I guess. Putting it at twice the weight of an avarage Roadster.

170/1.3 = 130BHP per Ton
80/.65 = 123BHP per ton

So on paper a CVH roadster would be very similar to the BMW, except you have better braking and better handling..


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Old 17th February 2010, 12:06 AM
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Dan
its really up to you what you want you do have to plan ahead though
a sierra donor is not 100% necessary .
a zetec a good motor
if you are building a trackday only car then its easy enough to source
the necessary bits you need but you wont be able to follow the the book to the letter..
for the rear you,ll need a sierra diff driveshafts hubs carriers and calipers you,ll probably end upputting new brakes on
for the front you,ll need sierra uprights and calipers again you,ll proably renew the the brakes
you,ll need a g,box mt75 or type 9
a bespoke propshaft
you could probably modify lots of different h/brake levers to do the job
and if you,re looking to use different clocks than a sierra dash etc..
also a homemade steering column would not be too much of a drama
especially if you are not going iva
lots of people start with a sierra but you could quite easily source the bits you need else where...
for eg.Rally design do a set of brand new front hubs and uprights for £99
not a bad price if the sierra donor ones need seals , bearings and a good clean etc
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Old 17th February 2010, 12:18 AM
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welcome to the forum Dan,

as others have already given you lots of good advice, as Les has suggested its up to you what/how you build your car,

don,t dismiss the choice of going BEC, especially if its for track use only, lots of power,rear wheel drive , sequential gearbox, & a light car indeed.

As for using a sierra..... that is the most popular route of donor and they do come up now & again quite cheaply, i got my sierra for £150 with tax and test on it, just keep your eyes/ears open for when they pop up.

A zetec install is a very easy way to go, on bike carbs & megajolt an easy 170bhp or more if you use some uprated cams, but don,t forget that 170bhp in a car that weighs between 500 to 550kgs will be alot more agile than a saloon car with the same bhp, The Roadster has fantastic road holding meaning you can get the power down alot quicker than most "hot " saloons.

Enjoy the forum & good luck with your build.

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Old 17th February 2010, 12:19 AM
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So, basically, if I stick to the plan and buy a Sierra, its going to cost me an arm and a leg, if I want to use a mondeo, its going to be a mechanical nightmare with lots of other parts to source.

Are there any other cars that would work in a similar aspect to the sierra that would pretty much follow the book?

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Old 17th February 2010, 12:28 AM
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So, basically, if I stick to the plan and buy a Sierra, its going to cost me an arm and a leg, if I want to use a mondeo, its going to be a mechanical nightmare with lots of other parts to source.

Are there any other cars that would work in a similar aspect to the sierra that would pretty much follow the book?

Kind regards,

Dan.
depends what you call an arm and a leg

my own build will be on the road (IVA tested) for a £3k budget, & that includes £500 set aside for the IVA test.

If you can find a cheap sierra & depending on which engine route you take you could even buy a brand new 2.0ltr zetec for £700 , it all depends how much you want to spend,

Other builders on the forum are using BMW donors, but then certain parts of the build process is not covered in "the book" & so this then asks for more mechanical problem solving ( but the forum members that have done it would help I,m sure ).

The sierra route is the easiest for the running gear, engine is then your choice whether it be zetec/duratec or bike engine, I say ford engines as they will be alot easier to fit to a ford gearbox etc.

hth.

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Old 17th February 2010, 12:45 AM
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Thanks for all the replies people. I think I will keep my eyes out for a cheap sierra and maybe a zetec engine a little later on.

Thanks,

Dan.
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Dan,
maybe put in your profile where you are located, just needs a rough location, as you might have forum members close to you who maybe can help etc.

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Old 17th February 2010, 01:58 AM
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Ive done that. Cheers.
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Old 17th February 2010, 09:24 AM
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Hi Dan

Welcome to the forum

I see that you have had plenty of good, sound advice

The cost of a Sierra donor will seem like a bargain when you sit back & realise just how many build parts you'll have collected in one go

Enjoy the build when you make a start
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