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Old 16th September 2011, 09:23 AM
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Well again a newbie question here but is the ignition switch the same as barrel where the key goes in or is somewhere else on the loom? I guess we've proved by testing the voltages on the plug (not the barrel) are the same as the barrel so I would have thought the problem is somewhere else in the loom?
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Old 16th September 2011, 09:53 AM
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Has the ignition barrel been off or dismantled or any part of the assembly been apart. Also was the donor a runner when you got it ie,on the button.
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Old 16th September 2011, 10:00 AM
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The ignition barrel/assembly hasn't been touched for what i can tell I can tell but I'm a bit of a newbie that way. It was just unplugged when I took the loom out. It just looked like the yellow/black wire was cut at some point in the past before me as it was joined up with a terminal block when I took it apart. The donor was indeed running as I drove it home because I didn't have means to move a non-runner.
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Old 16th September 2011, 12:33 PM
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Ignition switch is on the oposit end of the barrel from the key.

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Old 16th September 2011, 12:38 PM
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Ok so that rules that out I guess. Where do I go next to try and get it running? Do you think I need to connect the ecu?
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We need to figure out waht's wrong with the loom. Did you check the voltages with the switch unplugged?

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Old 16th September 2011, 01:54 PM
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Yes, they where the same as with it plugged in.
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Old 16th September 2011, 02:27 PM
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I've been trying to read the wiring diagram and it looks like there should only be two wires on the ignition switch on the 1.6/1.8 cfi's. A red and yellow/black. It looks like the yellow/black should to to the anti-theft module (which I don't think I have), then it also seems to split and go to 1) power delay relay as a black wire? 2) ecu as a black wire [pin 5] 3) edis as a black wire [pin 8]. The red wire coming out of the ignition on the other had appears to split also and go to an engine managment relay, the battery positive, the ecu via a fuse [pin 1], and the power delay relay. Is the problem something like because I don't have the ecu plugged in, it's not completing the circut and i need to cut the ecu wires off and connect them up to each other?
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Old 16th September 2011, 02:29 PM
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Ok. Have you found the alarm module and it's black/Yellow wires. Unplug the module and test the voltage at the ignition again.

Also test the continuity between the starter wire at the starter and the blue/black at the switch.

Have you managed to find the matching wires for the coil?

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Ok. Have you found the alarm module and it's black/Yellow wires. Unplug the module and test the voltage at the ignition again.
It doesn't look like mine had an alarm as I can't find any plugs for it on the loom.

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Also test the continuity between the starter wire at the starter and the blue/black at the switch.
I'll try this when I get home.

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Have you managed to find the matching wires for the coil?
yes that's connected now
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