Haynes Forums  

Go Back   Haynes Forums > Haynes Roadster Forums > Engine/transmission
FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 18th November 2010, 08:48 AM
davedew's Avatar
davedew davedew is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Taunton
Posts: 342
Question Oil pump priming

I've just filled the engine with oil & thought it would be best to circulate some of it through the system seeing as it hasn't had any in for about 8 months now.

In total I must have cranked the engine for 5 minutes, and still have not got any oil showing at the filter.

When I altered the pickup & sump I cut 25mm from each part. Have about 3-5mm of clearance between the pickup & bottom of the sump.

I've tried squirting oil in through the pressure relief valve, oil filter ports, still nothing.

What have others done? Would you just fill the filter & start the engine and see if oil light goes out?

Pain having to split engine & box again to get to the rearmost sump bolts.

Cheers

Dave
__________________
http://s831.photobucket.com/user/dav...ter%20Pictures

OTR 01/05/14 - 1.6 CVH, Type 9, Bike Carbs, Megajolt
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 18th November 2010, 12:17 PM
mark mark is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Billingham (north east)
Posts: 770
Default

Does the oil pressure warning light go out?

All i have done for a first start is disconnect coil pack and fuel and turned over until the light went out then reconnected fuel and spark and fired it up
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 18th November 2010, 01:15 PM
davedew's Avatar
davedew davedew is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Taunton
Posts: 342
Default

Haven't got the wiring sorted yet. Just connecting starter straight to battery. Even with oil filter off when cranking no oil comes out, so I wouldn't expect the light to go out.
__________________
http://s831.photobucket.com/user/dav...ter%20Pictures

OTR 01/05/14 - 1.6 CVH, Type 9, Bike Carbs, Megajolt
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 18th November 2010, 05:15 PM
DaddyA's Avatar
DaddyA DaddyA is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Saltash, Cornwall
Posts: 263
Default

Dave,

not critising your welding but you did make sure there was no leaks from your pick-up before fitting it?

ie - blank it thenfill it with white spirit and see if it seeps through?

Its alot easier to suck air than cold oil!!

Probably doesn't help at this stage.
__________________
Cheers

Daz...

http://s641.photobucket.com/albums/uu133/tashlotty/
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 18th November 2010, 07:46 PM
alga's Avatar
alga alga is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Vilnius, Lithuania
Posts: 1,249
Default

Perhaps the pump is not airtight and cannot suck the oil in? Perhaps it's worth feeding some oil into the pump through the filter hole?
__________________
Albert
Haynes Roadster FAQ | Haynes Builder Locations
Gallery, build thread in Lithuanian / via Google Translate.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 18th November 2010, 08:13 PM
flyerncle flyerncle is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: gateshead,near cobbly bit of A1 North
Posts: 3,188
Default

If it is towable take the plugs out and tow it,rig up a bulb to the oil pressure switch.
All you need is a live to live feed to bulb and the other to the switch as the rise in oil pressure breaks the earth and puts the light out.
__________________
Cost : Little as possible.
Thanks : To those who by their generosity my build has progressed.
Its a handmade sports car not a flaming kit car !!!


If at first you dont succeed,avoid skydiving...

No parachute require to freefall,only if you want to do it twice.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 18th November 2010, 10:08 PM
davedew's Avatar
davedew davedew is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Taunton
Posts: 342
Default

Thanks for all suggestions. I've decided the only way to know for sure is to take the sump off and check everything again. I can then have a proper go at priming the pump directly into the pickup port. Failing all else it will be a new oil pump just to be sure.
__________________
http://s831.photobucket.com/user/dav...ter%20Pictures

OTR 01/05/14 - 1.6 CVH, Type 9, Bike Carbs, Megajolt
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 19th November 2010, 12:31 PM
twinturbo's Avatar
twinturbo twinturbo is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Carlisle
Posts: 4,389
Default

The pump should be self priming unless very worn.

TT
__________________
You only get a woosh with a dump valve

Build Thread


Man Cave Mantiques



Cecil Street Auto Repairs Garage Carlisle




Build Cost £4181.65 - Last - Wheel Cylinders
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 19th November 2010, 05:20 PM
snapper snapper is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Chelmsford, Essex
Posts: 360
Default

I take the top off the pump and pack with vasaline.
Then take out the distributor and spin up the pump drive with a battery drill
Pinto
This gives flow and pressure without wrecking the bearings
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 19th November 2010, 05:37 PM
davedew's Avatar
davedew davedew is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Taunton
Posts: 342
Default

Going to try taking the plug out above the pressure relief valve tonight, and pump engine oil directly into the pump while turning it over with a ratchet. If it has got 'dry' that should sort that problem. I have also got a adapter made up to put a 1/2" socket into my power drill. That should hopefully spin the engine over quick enough to see if it builds any pressure.

Failing that sump off to see what is going on.
__________________
http://s831.photobucket.com/user/dav...ter%20Pictures

OTR 01/05/14 - 1.6 CVH, Type 9, Bike Carbs, Megajolt
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 10:46 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.