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Shorty
4th March 2013, 01:07 PM
A this seems to be a common problem with iva I just wanted to make sure I get it right as I've seen so many different ways of fitting.
Does anyone have any pictures of how they have done it? Especially if you have passed iva.
The bearing I have ordered from ebay is SLFL1 as I read somewhere that the 1" is a better fit than the 25mm without having to machine down the bush.
Looking at it, it seems as though I could bolt straight to the 3mm plate?
Open to any suggestions
loony
4th March 2013, 01:46 PM
Here's mine:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M3tqd0_-DUo/US_HdqwYvQI/AAAAAAAABlo/Sub0vBYeS70/s902/DSC00806.jpg
It's 25mm and I didn't have to machine down the bush - it was already machined for years of use ;)
It's bolted to straight 3mm plate and self-adjusted.
Shorty
4th March 2013, 05:29 PM
That's exactly as I was wanting to do it.
Why don't you have the plate covering the full width?
loony
5th March 2013, 07:39 AM
I'm not sure if I want it under or over TR8 - it depends on engine/headers position in relation to steering column... and I think it's stiff enough ;)
twinturbo
5th March 2013, 12:31 PM
Here's mine:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M3tqd0_-DUo/US_HdqwYvQI/AAAAAAAABlo/Sub0vBYeS70/s902/DSC00806.jpg
It's 25mm and I didn't have to machine down the bush - it was already machined for years of use ;)
It's bolted to straight 3mm plate and self-adjusted.
Did you have to fettle the other half of the clamp to clear the top rail?
TT
loony
5th March 2013, 12:49 PM
Did you have to fettle the other half of the clamp to clear the top rail?
TT
No - clamp (bearing housing) is untouched - looks tight but there's even about 1mm clearance between clamp and TR8 ;)
twinturbo
5th March 2013, 05:55 PM
Are both parts of the housing on the outside of the mounting plate then?
TT
loony
5th March 2013, 09:13 PM
Yes, they are both on the engine side of the plate.
Main hole in plate has about 60mm diameter...
jps
5th March 2013, 09:26 PM
Does the bearing rotate in the mount? Our does it have to be mounted at the angle the column runs at? In the picture it looks as though the bearing is angled relative to the mount it sits in (if that makes sense?!)
loony
5th March 2013, 09:42 PM
Bearing rotate in the mount until you tighten nuts - then it's quite solid mounted but at the angle.
I wonder how it will work with adjustable column, but should be ok - it doesn't need too much move...
jps
6th March 2013, 03:18 PM
Bearing rotate in the mount until you tighten nuts - then it's quite solid mounted but at the angle.
I wonder how it will work with adjustable column, but should be ok - it doesn't need too much move...
Sounds great - not sure all of them work like that - where did you get it from?! Is it available in UK as easily as Poland? :D
will_08
6th March 2013, 03:42 PM
This is pretty much what everyone else has used from what i can gather
SLFL25 LDK Pressed Steel Flange Bearing
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SLFL-SBPFL-STEEL-PRESSED-OVAL-2-BOLT-BEARING-HOUSING-/200607295231?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item2eb52066ff
£6 odd delivered :)
jps
6th March 2013, 06:14 PM
This is pretty much what everyone else has used from what i can gather
SLFL25 LDK Pressed Steel Flange Bearing
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SLFL-SBPFL-STEEL-PRESSED-OVAL-2-BOLT-BEARING-HOUSING-/200607295231?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item2eb52066ff
£6 odd delivered :)
That one doesn't look like it can be angled in the mount though...?
will_08
6th March 2013, 06:36 PM
I'm pretty sure it does, ill take mine out the bag and check later.
Like i said tonnes of peeps have spec'd that bearing for this job
loony
6th March 2013, 08:02 PM
Yes - "SLFL25 LDK Pressed Steel Flange Bearing" it's the same type of bearing. There are minor differences in insert bearings, but they are not important (like tube length etc.)
But - it wasn't so easily available in Poland - especially housing isn't popular. Everyone (except me) prefer cast iron housing for agricultural equipement...
http://www.bearingboys.co.uk/product_images/2_Bolt_Flanged-cat-1127-cat.jpg
But I wanted "lightweight" version ;) So for my special order... I got it.
Stot
8th March 2013, 11:52 AM
That one doesn't look like it can be angled in the mount though...?
I can confirm this one can be angled, just recieved my one from that listing.
Cheers
Stot
jps
8th March 2013, 07:22 PM
I can confirm this one can be angled, just recieved my one from that listing.
Cheers
Stot
And i've just had one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200611690408?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
drop through the door today. Which also pivots. :-D
Stot
8th March 2013, 07:45 PM
And i've just had one of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200611690408?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
drop through the door today. Which also pivots. :-D
Aint we a pair.
Although I can also confirm that the 25mm one doesn't fit the MX5 column... :doh: I would know that if I had read the Saturn guide properly that says to buy the 205-14 (7/8") one, or even measured my column. :rolleyes:
Luckily I have some 1" bar stock that I can make a bush out of. :o
Cheers
Stot
loony
9th March 2013, 01:27 PM
Looks like we have to specify what donor running gear parts fit ;)
So... to make it clear - mentioned earlier bearing fits Sierra steering column (with little bush turning or without modification).
Josh
6th August 2013, 05:49 PM
Bumping this to the top rather than start a new thread.
I'm using a standard Sierra rubber bush to support my steering column - will this be good enough for IVA man?
I have also replaced the (worn) nylon collar that fits into the rubber bush, however it is a bit slack. Was thinking of turning up a PTFE collar with a retaining lip to take up the slack - again, ok for IVA man?
Cheers
jps
6th August 2013, 05:59 PM
Bumping this to the top rather than start a new thread.
I'm using a standard Sierra rubber bush to support my steering column - will this be good enough for IVA man?
I have also replaced the (worn) nylon collar that fits into the rubber bush, however it is a bit slack. Was thinking of turning up a PTFE collar with a retaining lip to take up the slack - again, ok for IVA man?
Cheers
I'd say definitely lose the rubber mount and use the bearing. reduces the chance of iva man saying there too much wiggle in the column, plus it's just a better engineered solution I think. it's not a big job to fit the bearing, I did mine a couple of week ago.
edit, plus the bearing is about 7 quid. so hardly breaking the bank!
twinturbo
6th August 2013, 06:03 PM
Yeah deffo worth it. Much better location and smoother operation. You keep the part that goes over the triangular part of the collumn and don't use the outer of the nylon bearing or the rubber mount.
I did most of mine ( still to finalise ) a few months back.
TT
Josh
6th August 2013, 08:39 PM
Ok you've convinced me - bearing ordered!
Next problem, I've already welded in CP16 and my chassis has been finish painted. Can this bearing be retro fitted or will I need to make new bracketry (similar to that shown in previous posts in this thread)?
Thanks!
jps
6th August 2013, 08:42 PM
I just removed the angled bracket on cp16 and bolted the bearing straight to the vertical plate.
twinturbo
6th August 2013, 08:50 PM
Likewise, hammer chissle , angle grinder.
Mine is not painted though, my whole car will be built up and then stripped down for final prep before full assembly as there are many things that may need tweaking as time goes on.
TT
jps
6th August 2013, 09:45 PM
Likewise, hammer chissle , angle grinder.
Mine is not painted though, my whole car will be built up and then stripped down for final prep before full assembly as there are many things that may need tweaking as time goes on.
TT
out of interest tt, how are you dealing with rivnuts? and anything that will be riveted on (panels, brackets, brake lines, etc)? is everything just offered up and temporary clamped bit by bit?
Josh
8th August 2013, 08:29 PM
Bearing arrived this morning, removed the sloped rubber bush support and bolted the bearing on - much better! Steering feels nice and solid now, thanks for the help :)
http://i.imgur.com/RS8j6i7l.jpg
twinturbo
8th August 2013, 08:42 PM
out of interest tt, how are you dealing with rivnuts? and anything that will be riveted on (panels, brackets, brake lines, etc)? is everything just offered up and temporary clamped bit by bit?
My main cable/pipe runs are on service trays that are rivnutted at large intervals, clips/clamps are then fitted to the service tray.
Bodywork is either self cutting screws or rivnuts.
There are a few areas of brake pipe work that will be directly attached to the chassis but this will also be with self cutting screws.
The floor pan, trans tunnel sides, seat back, lower firewalls are permenantly fixed.
the re-build should only take a couple of days once everything is planned and trial built.
TT
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