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stevebish
15th June 2013, 01:04 PM
hi all would any body have some kind of simple drawing for the brake pipes
sierra drum on the back disc on the front could do with it showing were things like switches and which way they run on the car ????
im a bit lost thanks
voucht
15th June 2013, 04:41 PM
Hi Steve,
Please send me your personal email address in a PM on this forum, and I can send you a lot of 3D drawings I did fof different routes of the brake lines. Unfortunately, these drawings are not published on my website (lack of time).
Thanks.
twinturbo
15th June 2013, 04:48 PM
It's all personal preference really apart from sorting the outlets from the master cylinder.
TT
stevebish
16th June 2013, 03:44 PM
great help thanks
TheArf
17th June 2013, 09:00 AM
Hi Sylvain, is it possible you could send me the same 3d drawings
Arfon
voucht
17th June 2013, 10:52 AM
Hi Sylvain, is it possible you could send me the same 3d drawings
Arfon
Hi Arfon
You have a PM.
Regards.
TSM Locost
17th June 2013, 12:08 PM
Hi Sylvain, is it possible you could send me the same 3d drawings for front and rear disc's.
Thanks Mike.
K4KEV
17th June 2013, 12:33 PM
I can vouch(t) for Syl's brake pipes....they are a bit special and look superb;)
voucht
17th June 2013, 12:35 PM
Hi Mike,
Actually, I published the 3D drawing on my website now.
There are a lot of different set-ups for the brake lines/pipes INSIDE the chassis.
https://sites.google.com/site/hydraulicforkitcars/custom-brake-hoses/4---different-set-ups
Sorry, I have nothing so far concerning the flexi lines for disc set-up on the rear brakes. But I would be interested in studying this set-up with you, so if you want to send me some pictures of your rear brakes, we can start to design it together.
The contact email address is on the website.
Thank you.
Regards.
voucht
17th June 2013, 12:38 PM
I can vouch(t) for Syl's brake pipes....they are a bit special and look superb;)
Thank you Kev ;)
jps
17th June 2013, 01:18 PM
Actually, I published the 3D drawing on my website now.
There are a lot of different set-ups for the brake lines/pipes INSIDE the chassis.
https://sites.google.com/site/hydraulicforkitcars/custom-brake-hoses/4---different-set-ups
A cracking little resource - has helped me think about what I need to have in place - much appreciated!
stevebish
18th June 2013, 06:21 PM
just a couple more questions for you all ive attached a pic of a part
could some one tell me do we use it and were dose it go ?? I had it with a load of parts in a box
also what is the easiest to put a brake pressure switch or a switch on the brake pedal
thanks
IMG-20130618-00313.jpg
voucht
18th June 2013, 07:06 PM
Hi Steve,
The part you show is the rear proportioning valve, which releases the pressure on the rear brake when the car is breaking, as the weight transfer goes towards the front of the car, rear wheels are lighten, so they can block easily.
It looks like you do not need it on the Roadster if you use the rear drum set-up, as the weight transfer of the car (the roadster is very light) associated to the "poor" braking of the drums will not make the rear wheel blocking before the car fully stops. However, people who have a 4-disc set-up install the valve because a blockage can occur easier.
When it comes to the brake light switch, again, it is a question of preferences. Some people installed an electric switch on the pedal and went back to a pressure switch because of the electric wires you have around your feet (I think it is the case of Ajay IIR). As the pedal of the Roadster are fitted on the floor, it is quite hard to fine a good place to put an electric switch. Much easier when the pedal are top mounted. But some people managed to install an electric switch in spite of this difficulties. I think the easiest way is to use a pressure switch on a tee piece (the VW Beatle one is excellent, cheap, and M10x1.00). Some say that the reactivity of a pressure switch is slower then an electric switch (which is instant-reacting of course), certainly true, but the use of the VW looks to be OK for IVA.
It also exists banjo bolts with an integrated pressure switch. But I don't advise them, first because there is no reason to fit banjos on the master cylinder of the Roadster (enough room for copper pipes or tubular fittings, and banjos are a hell to bleed and also more expensive), and second because I installed this kind of banjo bolt on one my motorbkies (Cagiva elefant) when the electric brake light switch broke, and I can say they are way not reactive enough: you have to brake hard to lit the brake light.
Sorry for my English if I am not clear enough ;)
Good luck :)
stevebish
18th June 2013, 07:33 PM
thanks again for that m8
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