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Enoch
19th June 2013, 03:57 PM
Hi folks, some of the forum "old guard" may remember me from my previous build. Am building another one now albeit a heavily modificated one:D
This one is being built to accept a Jag 5.3 V12 and independent rear suspension. As it will be a bit heavy for such a small engine I intend to fit a couple of turbo chargers to liven things up a bit.:D
I have the rear part of the chassis built - basically from the engine bulk head back, I need to get my donor engine out before finalising dimensions for the transmission tunnel and front end.
I know all the arguments as to whether it will be a roadster or not - maybe it will, maybe it won't but it is still based on the principles of the book build. I am enjoying building it, I have a much bigger and better workshop than last time, will put some piccies on photobucket soon and do another post with a link to them.
So hi to all the old members that remember me and also hi to the young whippersnappers who don't know me from Adam.
PS my old build diary - www.deepfolly.co.uk - is still up but will soon be wiped so I can do a whole new diary for my Jagster.
Dave.
twinturbo
19th June 2013, 05:17 PM
Good to have you back, sounds like an interesting build.
TT
Dualist
19th June 2013, 05:55 PM
Can't wait to see pics of this :)
K4KEV
19th June 2013, 06:06 PM
welcome back dude....once you have built one, it is in your blood forever.
Enoch
19th June 2013, 06:13 PM
Can't wait to see pics of this :)
Hi there, you are only down the road from me so you are welcome to come and have a look. I am in Fishtoft - moved here last October.
PM me if you want to come over.
flyerncle
19th June 2013, 08:15 PM
Gluton for punishment,welcome back and good luck.
tkpm
19th June 2013, 10:19 PM
Welcome back Enoch, look forward to seeing the pic's
Terry
vmax1974
19th June 2013, 10:22 PM
V12 twin turbo wow that will be worth watching cant wait to see it taking shape
jps
19th June 2013, 10:40 PM
Hi folks, some of the forum "old guard" may remember me from my previous build. Am building another one now albeit a heavily modificated one:D
This one is being built to accept a Jag 5.3 V12 and independent rear suspension. As it will be a bit heavy for such a small engine I intend to fit a couple of turbo chargers to liven things up a bit.:D
I have the rear part of the chassis built - basically from the engine bulk head back, I need to get my donor engine out before finalising dimensions for the transmission tunnel and front end.
I know all the arguments as to whether it will be a roadster or not - maybe it will, maybe it won't but it is still based on the principles of the book build. I am enjoying building it, I have a much bigger and better workshop than last time, will put some piccies on photobucket soon and do another post with a link to them.
So hi to all the old members that remember me and also hi to the young whippersnappers who don't know me from Adam.
PS my old build diary - www.deepfolly.co.uk - is still up but will soon be wiped so I can do a whole new diary for my Jagster.
Dave.
don't wipe out Deep Folly! I use it for inspiration and tips!
BORNXenon
20th June 2013, 08:58 AM
Welcome back Enoch, I have read your original build diary many times!
Good luck with the latest, will be watching with intrigue! :)
voucht
20th June 2013, 09:23 PM
don't wipe out Deep Folly! I use it for inspiration and tips!
Same for me! Please don't wipe it out! And you are one of the few who installed a DOHC in the Roadster, so it is a lot of inspiration for me, as that is the engine I'm using too!
Good luck with the new build, looks like an amazing challenge :)
Enoch
21st June 2013, 09:28 AM
Hi everybody. To create space for my new ramblings I have condensed the old build diary down to a single page - the handy hints and tips remain on a seperate page. this gives me 6 pages for the new build, which I have started to write up. Hope that helps.
Dave.
PS really pleased to see that people have found the original build diary helpful, I often wondered if I was wasting my time with all that typing.
old_bill
24th June 2013, 02:52 PM
welcome back and good luck with the new build. I'll be watching with interest.
Enoch
17th July 2013, 07:12 PM
Been well busy recently, now got the engine and box out of the donor car. What a complete nightmare. The Ford 4 pots are as light as a feather by comparison. Got it done after about 5 ours of brutal manhandling. It is now in the workshop sat by the chassis and in a position where I can take proper measurements from it. I can see problems ahead as it is such a massive lump. Looks like I am going to be able to sit it further back than I thought, which should be good for weight distribution. I have updated my web site - all the latest piccies here: http://www.deepfolly.co.uk/4.html
twinturbo
17th July 2013, 07:39 PM
So do you have an idea of what you want it to look like?
It's a mighty big engine, and a might tough rear end.
TT
TheArf
18th July 2013, 08:32 AM
That is one almighty beasty
Arfon
Enoch
18th July 2013, 08:43 AM
TT, it is going to have elements from an enlarged MG TC and some elements from a 1950's Singer that I saw at a show earlier in the year. It will have running boards and sweeping arches, the back will be fairly steeply sloped. I have to accept the fact that my sheet metal working skills are very limited so there will be a lot of straight panels. I have an idea to use VW beetle wings to give me some basis for some shape and form. I will be going to Newark autojumble at the weekend to seek some inspiration. I think the biggest issue for me from the appearance point of view is the engine cooling. The front may have to be wider than I would like due to the massive radiator required. The front will be tapered so if I can get the engine far enough back I can also get the rad back and then make the very front a bit narrower - hope that makes sense?
Arf - it is indeed an almighty beast. At some point the heads have to come off so I can replace the valve stem oil seals - not a job that I am looking forward to. A special tool is needed to get the heads off these monsters as they have studs running through water ways, which corrode and stop the head from lifting off. I figure it will be much easier to do with the lump bolted in to the chassis.
I am now waiting for some saw blades for my reciprocating saw, can't do much more until they arrive.
Best and all that,
Dave.
voucht
18th July 2013, 12:39 PM
The front may have to be wider than I would like due to the massive radiator required. The front will be tapered so if I can get the engine far enough back I can also get the rad back and then make the very front a bit narrower - hope that makes sense?
If you chose to have your radiator custom made in aluminium, you can drastically reduce the dimensions for the same cooling capacities as the OEM radiator. PWR (http://www.pwr.com.au/), for example, can study the minimum size you need if you provide them with all data's (Make, Model, Series, Year, Engine, HP, Manual / Auto, Use(Race, Street, Off-road, etc.), air flow, etc.)
It is of course also a question of money, because these radiators are not cheap, but that is road I would explore.
PWR Europe is in the UK. If you need more info, don't hesitate to contact me.
Hope this help :)
Enoch
18th July 2013, 09:11 PM
Thanks for that Sylvain, having a custom rad would be a bit outside of my planned budget. Mrs Enoch might punch me in the face if I tried that one. The Jag radiator quite weird in the way it is configured as it appears to be a bit like 2 radiators in one. I am going to have a good look at the workshop manual as I am thinking that maybe 2 rads in a V shape with the point at the front of the car may work quite well, if I can work out how to do it. There are lots of things I intend to work out as I go - it's probably not the best way to do it but it's just the way I kind of enjoy working.
Today I got to take out the dash, gear selector, speedo cable and steering column - not many donor parts left in the car now.
Tomorrow I hope to get the front chassis cross member cut so I can slide the engine back to where it should sit. I can then start finalising some measurements and begin cutting metal for the front end.
Happy days indeed:D
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