handyandy or talon or ????????

[locost-turbo]

hiya

who offers the pre cut kits? and whats the Benefits of each. I heard handy andy built the awkward front panel to save making a jig. do the flat packs come with the metal plates? brackets? can these be bought as I extrss

tried to contact handy andy but inbox is full. if u build such a kit then pm me a price if you dont want it public.

pre cut kit to take an mt75 gearbox but price on botj (type 9) please.

anyone bought a flat pack and had first hand experience?

thanks

nick

[twinturbo]

Handy has been of the radar for quite a while after his mum passes away.

Phil will do you a kit though,

TT

[vmax1974]

Handyandy not been active on here for over a year and was selling his car but dont know if he ever sold it so as far as I know you only its only talon thats doing them now an sure he will be along soon to give you all the prices and what not but if memory serves I think they start at £225 plus plate kit

I dont know if he supplies front frame fully welded but as long as you get the jig right these are not too hard to make yourself

Hope this helps

Good luck with your build

[vmax1974]

Handy has been of the radar for quite a while after his mum passes away.

Phil will do you a kit though,

TT

Beat me to it

[will_08]

Phil made me a front frame, not sure if its part of his flat pack though.

The material he uses is good too, nice and square not the sloped shoulder stuff that makes measuring that bit harder

[Talonmotorsport]

Tube only flat packs which include all the 25x25 and 20x20 in 1.5mm walled ERW is all pre cut on a cold saw and profiled on a milling machine this is £225
Postage for the flat pack is £40 via TNT please bare in mind it weighs 50kg plus.

I can weld the front frame together it's not a problem although it will be another £5 as it has to be sent in separate package.

Complete CNC cut chassis plate kits can be brought from Gillham online.

[TheArf]

I thought gillham online did it all including a flat pack

Arfon

[locost-turbo]

I will check with them as well. thanks.

phil whats the time frame for a pre cut kit? no rush just wondered and where are you based?

[Talonmotorsport]

I've got two other flat packs to do so if I set the saw and mill up for it a cut it makes sense to run half a dozen off at the same time, lead time on a flat pack is currently 10 days to 6 months. :D

[locost-turbo]

dont start cutting till you have asked me. so if you get to 5 and need another I will make number 6 ;) just raid kids piggy banks whats the deposit to get on the list?

I am guessing reading other posts you will need at least the money to buy materials to cover your costs. pm me if its better.

[Talonmotorsport]

I've nothing to hide it's £100 via paypal by mid day monday so I can get the materials ordered and hopefully get it delivered for wednesday. All being fine and dandy you can either collect it at the weekend of the 7th-8th with the balance in cash or TNT will deliver wednesday after the other £165 has been paid via paypal.

[TheArf]

I don't know if they do flat pack but if you see anything by a guy going by the name rouge engineering do not be tempted, he does advertise on ebay and thats where I had the misfortune to come across him.
I paid him straight away but it took an age to get my bits and a threat of paypal, the forums and bodily harm before i got what i paid for

Arfon

[locost-turbo]

thanks for heads up. just need to break it to the wife that this dream is happening and I am starting it by monday. she commented yesterday. why do u keep buying tools on ebay. :rolleyes: just an offer I could not resist.

right then best I make her a cup of tea. :D

[TheArf]

And yourself a huge slice of humble pie, we all have

Arfon

[j.brownster79]

Thanks to phil @ talon my 100 is paid and my chassis is getting closer to being my toy oneday!

[vmax1974]

And yourself a huge slice of humble pie, we all have

Arfon

Some of us are going to have to eat it again very soon

[locost-turbo]

tonights d day. best I buy her tickets to burliegh horse trails, then ask.

then the decision:-

a build and cut myself cheapest
b get phill to do it for 265 chassis pack delivered
c get gillham online to do it with chassis flat pack, chassis plates. suspension mounts for 345 delivered.

[flyerncle]

Just do it and keep the nuts covered.........;)

[jason 82]

Another option is to buy your steel from the stockists, get a 4.5 inch grinder, with one of those wafer thin steel cutting discs. They cost a quid each, and are brilliant ! Failing that, rent a chop saw from your local tool hire store for the weekend, and crack on. My local tool hire shop wants £25 all in, from 8am Saturday, until 8am Monday. You can have a few frothy bevies while you are doing it, get the misses to pop the barby on as well. Lovely. :D

[twinturbo]

Although I bought my chassis ready made cheap.

If i was starting again I would go with a flat pac. less danger to health, less chance of getting pi...ed off , no saw or saw hire to pay.. etc.

TT

[alga]

Oh, a couple of grinders are indispensable when building a chassis. One with a 1 mm cutting disk, another with a flappy disk (it's amazing how much difference the abrasive compound makes -- get a Zirconia one, it will last at 5-10x longer and cut steel easier). I have a third one mounted in a chopsaw-like holder.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZzNAcT1cX5w/USny9NJtGCI/AAAAAAAADTA/wZQNEwzm9ys/s400/2009-08-03-212042.jpg

The advantage of a pre-cut is that the first part of your chassis build will be like on fast-forward: 20 hours instead of 60 or so.

[locost-turbo]

I like the idea of the first part being quite speedy, means I will have something to look at. itd easier to justify spending when you have more than a pile of box section. gives me all autum and winter to build chassis. and get rolling chassis. with christmas gifts to give it the added winter boost. I can work on running gear next summer. body work over winter (wife may by then get me body work for Christmas. SVA summer 2015 2years thats a speedy build. im guessing 1000 hours to finish. 52 weeks a year. thats a mere 10 hours a week. :D:eek: might take 3 years being realistic.

[locost-turbo]

I like the idea of the first part being quite speedy, means I will have something to look at. itd easier to justify spending when you have more than a pile of box section. gives me all autum and winter to build chassis. and get rolling chassis. with christmas gifts to give it the added winter boost. I can work on running gear next summer. body work over winter (wife may by then get me body work for Christmas. SVA summer 2015 2years thats a speedy build. im guessing 1000 hours to finish. 52 weeks a year. thats a mere 10 hours a week. :D:eek: might take 3 years being realistic.

[will_08]

Yip flat pack is the way forward for sure,

Also have to say Rogue engineering are not that bad, he can be slow but hes not out to rip anyone.

The guys got feedback of near on 1000 with no negative in the last 12months, so peeps shouldn't be put off him. Ill buy my roll bar from him soon :)

like everyone else i've know to sell parts, these parts are a side earner. the stuff is made to order so some lag is to be expected. Although Arfon i don't know the exact details of your problems, your opinion may be well justified

[TheArf]

Although I bought my chassis ready made cheap.

If i was starting again I would go with a flat pac. less danger to health, less chance of getting pi...ed off , no saw or saw hire to pay.. etc.

TT

I bought the lazer cut lower wishbone plates and some other items from him, paid for them straight away but it took me months and lots of threats/promises of bodily harm and paypal before he finally delivered

Arfon

[alga]

SVA summer 2015 2years thats a speedy build. im guessing 1000 hours to finish. 52 weeks a year. thats a mere 10 hours a week. :D:eek: might take 3 years being realistic.

It took me 750 hours over 3.5 years, including 7 months with 0 hours logged. Here's a summary of where the time went:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ame0gToWEPyHdE1RRjRsMGI3emJYRUxzNEM5SGkzN EE&usp=sharing

My record was 70 hours in one month, and 40-50 hours was a good month, and the average was 16 hours per month.

There are more than a few people who have built theirs in 6-12 months. Think about it, if you can steal a couple of hours each workday evening and two 6-hour sessions in during the weekend, you have 22 hours each week.

[locost-turbo]

750 hours is good going I like a fair bit of faff time. :rolleyes:

70 hours in a month my wife would leave me. and my kids (aged 4, 6, 16) would forget who I was.

I guess dependant on shifts I will be 5 - 10 hours a week.

so maybe 2 years is doable, I couldn't afford to finish in 6 months. one of my argument for building is its 100ish a month for a couple of years for a hobby. I can do bits with the kids as well.