Started on the peddal box

[TheArf]

Just a few photos' of the pedals I have started, many thanks to Sylvain for his drawings.
http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac207/TheArf/haynesbuild/DSC_0099.jpg (http://s900.photobucket.com/user/TheArf/media/haynesbuild/DSC_0099.jpg.html)
http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac207/TheArf/haynesbuild/DSC_0100.jpg (http://s900.photobucket.com/user/TheArf/media/haynesbuild/DSC_0100.jpg.html)
http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac207/TheArf/haynesbuild/DSC_0101.jpg (http://s900.photobucket.com/user/TheArf/media/haynesbuild/DSC_0101.jpg.html)

[TheArf]

If you look closely at this one if you are to accurate you will break through the wall so on the other two pedals I moved this hole for the pivot point in by 1mm other than that so far Sylvains drawings are absolutely spot on.
http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac207/TheArf/haynesbuild/DSC_0103.jpg (http://s900.photobucket.com/user/TheArf/media/haynesbuild/DSC_0103.jpg.html)

[twinturbo]

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[TheArf]

Bugger grrr any suggestions guys not computer minded remember. Problem is they show up on mine

Arfon

[TheArf]

Is that working now, grr I hate computers

Arfon

[jps]

Yep - seems to be OK. Looks good!

Can these pedals replace the standard book ones into the 'book' backplate? I may redo some of my pedals at some point..

Also - where did you get the bushes?

[TheArf]

If you speak nicely to Sylvain I am sure he will send you a copy of his design, which is what I am working to.
The bushes I have made my-self as I have access to the tooling needed

Arfon

[K4KEV]

now those are very tasty Arf.... will look the dogs when painted up

[TheArf]

Not going to paint them mate, powder coating them, but what colour do people think as I have Black, titanium and red, no one of each is not an option

Arfon

[jason 82]

Titanium mate. A real solid mans colour, those pedals look the business !;)

[Talonmotorsport]

Are you planning to have what looks like the brass top hats pivot on the bolts or will the steel sleeve rotate around the brass bushes like a crush tube? The reason I ask is if you've made it all to size theres a chance it will become one solid lump,how ever if the brass top hats are 0.2-0.3mm each over long the steel sleeve will still rotate when the bolt is done up tight.

[TheArf]

All bases covered with that Phil I have got clearance so that they rotate without binding

Arfon

[vmax1974]

Titanium mate. A real solid mans colour, those pedals look the business !;)

+ 1 for titanium

[vmax1974]

Titanium mate. A real solid mans colour, those pedals look the business !;)

+ 1 for titanium

Looking good will have to go cap in hand for my next build

[TheArf]

Any advances on titanium

[K4KEV]

another for titstanium:D :D

[TheArf]

another for titstanium:D :D

If i have a set of them on the car Kev the other half will have my you know whats in a vice

Arfon

[voucht]

Hi,
I've been away from the forum the last two weeks, I was in France visiting family, friends (and work). I'm very glad Arfon is building "my" pedal box, it is the third one!

Arf, your pedals look great and I like the brass top hat bushes. It looks like you're actually having a lot of fun with your new toys! Looking forward to see the finished pedal box :)

For those who are interested in this design, I'm very happy to share it, and construction guide and drawings are available here in one pdf document:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B-iOekLVikV5TWdrUEhtZjZHalk/edit?usp=sharing

If you want to see how I built the pedal box and how it looks when finished, you can have a look at my blog here:
http://vouchtroadster.blogspot.se/2012/05/pedalier1-pedal-box1.html
and here:
http://vouchtroadster.blogspot.se/2012_06_01_archive.html

Deanno (who unfortunately had to sell his car since) used this design too, and replaced the welded M6 nut holding the forward stop bolts with M6 tapped 3mm plate. Looks tougher:
http://www.haynes.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=8143&page=2&highlight=Deanno

JPS, the back plate of my design has the same dimensions as the one from the book, and this pedal box will fit exactly in the same way. You can check in the guide linked above.

I don't say this design is better than the one from the book, it is just different and allows to use leftovers of round and square section tubes from the chassis, avoiding to cut the uneasy shapes of the pedal shafts (or the need to laser cut or buy them), using 5mm plates (as the 3mm plates are too weak for a pedal shaft, it has been said many times on this forum).

Any question, do not hesitate to send me a PM.

Thanks!

[TheArf]

Thanks for the comments Sylvain, I must say it is a cracking design and well drawn out and easy to follow

Arfon

[Johno]

Just looked at your pedal box design Sylvian, fantastic work there my friend...;)
I must also say your instructions are top quality and should be seriously considered by anybody building a Haynes Roadster....:) :)
Just looking at what Arfon has done with your design is testament enough.
I guess Arfon you have been putting your new equipment to use, top quality work there buddy:cool:

[jason 82]

Well done sylvan, just in the nick of time ! I was about to start the pedals in the next few weeks, but I was going to use my mx5 pedal box, as the standard ones look a little flimsy. Definitely going with your plans, very well done mate !:D

[TheArf]

Well I think it would be criminal not to as we don't have any candidates until the 23rd of this month.
If you look carefully at photos' you will see that where I milled the hole for the boss that gets welded in it actually broke through the pedal wall so on the other two I moved the hole center 1 mm inboard and that stopped the cutter from breaking through and makes very little difference to the operation.

Arfon

[voucht]

Thank you very much for the nice comments guys, I blushed a little when I read them ;)

To follow Arfon in some useful remark, I noticed on my pedal box that the stroke of the accelerator pedal is wee too short.

I respected the books pedal's ratios, but as it is a straight shaft, the top of the pedal touches CP16 before the throttle is completely open (at least with my Sierra 2.0i DOHC). Perhaps other engines have shorter cable length to pull, so it will be OK.

On mine, I can only pull the full cable length if the pedal if fitted on the last bracket's hole (I mean, the ones farther from CP16, or the most towards the rear of the car if you prefer)

I might need to add a a cam-piece somewhere to solve the problem.

I thought it would be good to warn the ones who will build this pedal box in the future.

Thanks :)