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Joelove
18th April 2014, 07:23 AM
http://bit.ly/1jbh8cq

Will these shock fit ok? Thought it was a good price but can't see if there's a catch?

Anything wrong with having the 1.9" springs?

Cheers

TSM Locost
18th April 2014, 08:40 AM
Most people use 1.9 springs and 14" shocks are also used by most builders. Very good price.:)

Joelove
18th April 2014, 08:13 PM
Most people use 1.9 springs and 14" shocks are also used by most builders. Very good price.:)

Nice one, I'll be making a purchase then :) any advise on springs?
I'm 11 stone and fitting a cbr 1000rr engine

TSM Locost
19th April 2014, 10:01 AM
If you do a search for spring rates you will find loads of info.

There was a group buy some time ago for car engine Roadsters 14" x 1.9 with 250 rear and 350 front.

On page 5 read Baz-r update who has roads similar to ours.

For bike engine my guess as a starting point would be between 200/220 R and 300/325 front.

Stot
19th April 2014, 10:53 AM
Just in case, 14" is no good for MX5 builds at the back. I have 12" at the back on mine.

Cheers
Stot

Joelove
19th April 2014, 06:11 PM
Ok I'll do a search. And it's seirra running gear so I'm ok.
The only thing I'm concerned about is the end pieces on the struts arnt very wide, certainly not 34mm so do I just space them?

flyerncle
20th April 2014, 10:36 AM
I bought the Gaz one's from Dampertech last week, i asked about the 14 "'s and he said that they would be in the middle of the travel on the Haynes with Sierra suspension and be aware that the mounting brackets need adjusting to clear damper body.

Joelove
20th April 2014, 06:37 PM
Just seen they also sell them with the right ends on, no dimensions tho

Joelove
22nd April 2014, 07:24 AM
Any body had shocks with sepherical bearings? How did you space them to fit?

flyerncle
22nd April 2014, 02:28 PM
The ones Dampertech sell have a one inch extension on and were made to fit the haynes,the spherical bearings are probably not a good idea for road use unless yu ocould put some boots or covers over them to stop the crap getting in and you would have to make spacers for the gaps.

TheArf
30th April 2014, 09:44 AM
Same as flyerncle I had to do some mods to the bracket as it fowled the shock body

Arfon

Joelove
30th April 2014, 12:55 PM
I purchased the 1/2" sepherical bearing ones in the end. So now gotta fit 1/2" bolts and source some spacers. Found some misalignment spacers that I think will do the job and doing it this way I can't see there being a problem with the shock bodies fouling

flyerncle
1st May 2014, 12:55 PM
Depends on who made shock brackets and what shocks you use, the amount of metal left above the hole and placement of the bush in the shocker could lock up on the bracket so make sure you have clearance on the bracket to the shock body or it will lock/wear shock body.

richardwarry
7th May 2014, 07:13 PM
hi i see above that most are using 14" shocks and not the 13" ones in the book is there any mods that need doing to get them to fit to make the ride height right many thanks rick

alga
9th May 2014, 01:30 PM
No, they fit right in. The spring seats are adjustable anyway, you set the ride height with those.

Oscar
20th May 2014, 12:55 PM
Well, I went and splashed out on a set of the second type Joelove linked to, and I can say the bloke on the other end was very helpful in adding a second pair to the listing without postage, and they look the Bees Knees!

Now I've been looking on Rally Design for springs (starting at the recommended 350 and 250 rates) and I find myself needing extra info:
--- What free-length springs should I be buying?---

Joelove
23rd July 2014, 10:57 PM
Well, I went and splashed out on a set of the second type Joelove linked to, and I can say the bloke on the other end was very helpful in adding a second pair to the listing without postage, and they look the Bees Knees!

Now I've been looking on Rally Design for springs (starting at the recommended 350 and 250 rates) and I find myself needing extra info:
--- What free-length springs should I be buying?---

Rears 9" and fronts 8" if you have the 14" shocks

jps
24th July 2014, 06:36 PM
Same as flyerncle I had to do some mods to the bracket as it fowled the shock body

Arfon

Is there more detail of either your or flyerncle's mods on the forum anywhere? Just thinking I had best address this soon if i am going to have problems as I'm halfway through painting my chassis but have never fitted any shocks to it...

baz-r
1st August 2014, 09:53 AM
Is there more detail of either your or flyerncle's mods on the forum anywhere? Just thinking I had best address this soon if i am going to have problems as I'm halfway through painting my chassis but have never fitted any shocks to it...

there is no mods required to fit full length shocks other than the radius of the lower mount on the wishbone needing trimming back a small amount but this is the same on useing a GAZ extended shock!

for everyones attension dampertech only sell a std 13" shock with an extra 1" added to the top mount. if you want extended ones you can go direct to GAZ and buy if you like.
the bloke tried to spin a load of bull about he was the only sorce and full length shocks would not fit and its a "spechal design" you can only buy from him and others will fowl chassis. sadly when asked what fowled where he could not tell me and he has never actualy seen or fitted a shock to a haynes roadster!
i hate it when people lie to me just to protect thair sales and even had sevral posts on this site deleted a while ago on the subject (when a mod was also selling roadster bits including shock packs)
my car is living proof that a 14" shock fits and works fine on the road and track.

by all means feel free to use what ever type of shock you like on your car but its importent to know the facts :D

AshG
3rd August 2014, 09:30 AM
the longer the better. i have gaz 13inch one's with the 1 inch extension on top as recommended by the book, if i push on hard down a bumpy road and hit a bump at speed i can occasionally hit the bump stops so the extra inch of travel a 14 inch unit gives could be helpful if it clears the brackets and suspension.

flyerncle
4th August 2014, 10:34 AM
Agreed about the length B/S from the person mentioned but all credit due there was no mention of chassis fowling as its down to how the brackets are made on the bottom arm that could catch the shock body.

baz-r
7th August 2014, 11:01 PM
ta da thay fit :D
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