zetec engine fitment?

[onedayTM]

qestion to those who have fitted zetec engines how close is the engine placed to the bulkhead or TR8. cannot tell from some pics and I trial fitted my recently and left 50mm from rear of block that put the end of gearbox 100mm past TT5.
Do you think that is enough?
any help welcome
thanks tony

[flyerncle]

As far back as possible and enough to get bell housing bolts out,that top rail has been removed/moved on a few builds.

[Eddy]

If you're using a type 9 it'll be the reverse switch, clutch lever and gear stick that determine how far back you can go.

I'm using a CVH (for now), so pretty similar engine configuration to the zetec. Its the thermostat housing that tries to occupy the same space as TR8, unless you go for an expensive water rail. I made a cut out in the rail and added another beneath to make up the strength

[flyerncle]

If you google "teamtrain Saturn" Spuds flickr contains pics of the roadster I put together and you can see how far back it will go,you can also see the stat housing from G20 Ginetta that fits in no bother and both sensors are in too.
The futher back it is helps with the balance.

[onedayTM]

cheers guys

[leroybrown911]

I have just put some pictures of my zetec (silvertop) in the chassis. It is as far back and low ass I could get it. Pictures aren't great, but if you need any dimensions let me know and I will go out and measure.

[TheArf]

Hows it coming mate, am away in. Pembroke until friday, maybe we can catch up with ayjay soon

Arfon

[leroybrown911]

Sounds good, I went to santa pod a few weeks ago and my mate I went with was rebuilding ayjays engine I think! Small world eh...

When you want to meet up and where?

[onedayTM]

hi leroy thanks for offer, just been on your blog and it looks like yours is not as far back as mine. Is that because the gear box you have is longer than type 9?
I will be putting unit back in again this time with clutch lever arm on because it looks really tight fit.
cheers anyway
tony

[leroybrown911]

hi,

Quite possibly. I could not get the engine any further back as the bell housing would foul the chassis rail but the mt75 is larger than a type9 so it may well look quite different.

[baz-r]

with a type9 you need to step back the top rail to clear the back of the head 27-30mm to get it to fit.

this way you can also retain the proper stat housing that the cooling system needs.

[onedayTM]

hi Bazr thanks for info, just looked at your build in CKC to see if on the right track. It,s always difficult to gauge from fotos how close things are but it looks like yours might be a bit lower in the chassis than mine so far. I have chopped sump to a height of 150mm and that sits 25mm lower than chassis. I have moved engine back so that thermostat is about 5mm from bulkhead so I will now cut bulkhead tube to clear that. To get clearance for gear lever at this initial position there is about 20mm each side of starter casing and clutch casings on bellhousing to tubes U7/U8. Any chance you can tell me how much you lowered yours?
cheers
tony

[baz-r]

hi Bazr thanks for info, just looked at your build in CKC to see if on the right track. It,s always difficult to gauge from fotos how close things are but it looks like yours might be a bit lower in the chassis than mine so far. I have chopped sump to a height of 150mm and that sits 25mm lower than chassis. I have moved engine back so that thermostat is about 5mm from bulkhead so I will now cut bulkhead tube to clear that. To get clearance for gear lever at this initial position there is about 20mm each side of starter casing and clutch casings on bellhousing to tubes U7/U8. Any chance you can tell me how much you lowered yours?
cheers
tony

off the top of my head i know i choped around 30mm out of my alloy sump and then set the engine so the gearbox was in the correct postion and set the engine as low as i could

[onedayTM]

when you say you got gearbox position right, does that mean the position of gear lever or the level of prop entry in relation to rear diff? If thats the case I done it arse about face. I positioned engine level to chassis on 25 mm sump lower to chassis but re lowered it as it was to close to bonnet position. It is now 35mm , gearlever does not fowl on rail but prop entry of g/box is about 10mm lower than diff, would that be ok.
cheers
tony

[alga]

Well, the propshaft has universal joints for a reason. The bearings in them would wear out if the propshaft was always in line. 10 mm is just right to keep the joints moving.

[onedayTM]

ok cheers albert