My Haynes for sale

[gaz05]

I've recently took up microlight flying and at £120 an hour lessons I've decided the car has to go. I've put it on locostbuilders

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=200601

Not sure what it's worth. £5.5k to get it on the road. I'd be happy if I could get £3k for it.

[MikeB]

Seems cheap but its not best time of year to sell. I'd want 4 for for mine when IVAd

[twinturbo]

Got any recent spec/pics?

Cheers

TT

[gaz05]

TT. There's pics and some specs in the link on the first post.

[twinturbo]

Will have to wait for the 48hr expiry as although I have been a member on there for 11+ years I hardly visit.

TT

[gaz05]

I had hosted most of the pics on Photobucket but have been ignoring all their Emails and now they're gone. I don't think I can upload to this site, can I?

[gaz05]

Text copied from locostbuilders
IVAd last September. I've only done about 1100 miles in it. H reg Age related plate

It drives and runs very well .Low mileage (60K) 2.0L silver top with standard ECU and sierra running gear. It took 4 years and cost me about £5.5k to actually get it on the road. I appreciate that it's not going to be worth anywhere near that but it's something I always wanted to do.

Has a few very minor faults which I had intended to do after IVA but I didn't want to do them till this winter in case I wanted to use it. The fuel pump is occasionally noisy and I think it's too high so needs swapping positions with the fuel filter. Easy job.
The R1 exhaust is a bit tatty and I was going to change it for a Stainless from a Bandit. I haven't put high enough chip plates on the back arches so the paint is chipped higher up. Original centre mirror hole needs filling and new paint. (It fell off officer!)
The bonnet was a work in progress and is painted black because I wanted to see what it would look like.It has some minor paint bubbling from the engine heat.

I have all paperwork inc IVA copy,receipts and a list of all the new parts used.

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[Davidbolam]

I've recently took up microlight flying and at £120 an hour lessons I've decided the car has to go. I've put it on locostbuilders

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=200601

Not sure what it's worth. £5.5k to get it on the road. I'd be happy if I could get £3k for it.

Are you doing the flying at eshott or Carlisle ?

Nice looking car but you are selling it too cheap. Surely you can get more than that for it

David

[TSM Locost]

[QUOTE=Davidbolam;101894]Are you doing the flying at eshott or Carlisle ?

Nice looking car but you are selling it too cheap. Surely you can get more than that for it

David.


Have to agree with David here, start @ 5.5k ono. Room for discount for quick sale. Good Luck.

[gaz05]

Eshott David. Seems a really good set up and I love the Ikarus C42s .Very stable to fly although I,m still struggling with smooth landings. That's not me in the Vid though

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fpJFinTPU0


I don't know whether it's cheap or not. I'm just looking to get enough for it to pay for the rest of my flying lessons.

[flyerncle]

Dont sell it untill you are certain flying is what you really want,you might regret it.
Nice looking car.

Try putting a Warroir down at Eshott.

I have PPl (A) if you want a quick wizz.

[gaz05]

Dont sell it untill you are certain flying is what you really want,you might regret it.
Nice looking car.

Try putting a Warroir down at Eshott.

I have PPl (A) if you want a quick wizz.

I can barely put a C42 down yet! I'm probably done with the car. It's fun to drive but I think I got more out of building it. I'm a serial hobbyist. I try one then move on to another. I'll try the flying for a while. It's been an interest since I was an air cadet forty years ago.

Have you got the warrior at Eshott? looks a really nice plane.

[flyerncle]

Fly from Ncle but have been in and out of eshott a few times,had ppl for 12 years plus ir/r

[Davidbolam]

Eshott David. Seems a really good set up and I love the Ikarus C42s .Very stable to fly although I,m still struggling with smooth landings. That's not me in the Vid though

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fpJFinTPU0


I don't know whether it's cheap or not. I'm just looking to get enough for it to pay for the rest of my flying lessons.

Storm seems like a nice chap. I like the idea of the ownership schemes they have.

David

[gaz05]

This not going to be a popular view but I've given up caring the past few months....
I've been watching finished Roadster car prices for the past 5 years with interest with the view to building complete cars, the conclusion is there is no money in finished cars at all. This is what I would say looking at it from the 'how do I justify the asking price' or the 'wife/GF factor' if you prefer as it cuts out the rose tinted glasses.
The reality of your car although is nicely built is that it's hard to justify because it's a very basic Roadster as it stands, try telling the average wife/gf that you have to wear a crash helmet to go on a day out in it?
If your car had a wind screen, wipers, heater, carpet, side screens and a rag top then I would say £4500-5500 plus no problem, as it is now I think your looking at around the £2800-3200 mark at best.
Your car would I guess be classed as a road legal on going project for some one looking to add their own parts/style to it or a road legal track day toy. I wish you all the best for the sale but be prepared to either have it hanging around for a long time or take the hit of a really low offer.

Phil. I knew when I started this project that I'd be taking a big hit when it was sold. That's why I said in the first post that I'd be happy if I could get £3k.

I've renovated bikes and cars in the past and know that the only way you're going to make a small fortune is to start with a large fortune.

I built it because I always wanted to build my own car and to a good standard. I've really enjoyed it. My garage has always been my second home. At one time I had two bikes,two jetskis, a go kart and still found space renovate a lambretta. Been there. Done that. Time to move on.

Now .Is it tall enough to get a home built plane in there?

[gaz05]

Storm seems like a nice chap. I like the idea of the ownership schemes they have.

David

Yes, seems a nice guy. He's had to have one of the C42s sent away for extensive repair as it had a mishap last week.

That might be the way I go. You can join the group scheme as soon as you go solo. I think it's about £2.5k for the first year and then you just pay the petrol used after that.

[rpjg1975]

Phil. I knew when I started this project that I'd be taking a big hit when it was sold. That's why I said in the first post that I'd be happy if I could get £3k.

I've renovated bikes and cars in the past and know that the only way you're going to make a small fortune is to start with a large fortune.

I built it because I always wanted to build my own car and to a good standard. I've really enjoyed it. My garage has always been my second home. At one time I had two bikes,two jetskis, a go kart and still found space renovate a lambretta. Been there. Done that. Time to move on.

Now .Is it tall enough to get a home built plane in there?


Step away from the Mark Evans 'is born' dvds !!! Plane or chopper???

Russ

[Davidbolam]

Phil. I knew when I started this project that I'd be taking a big hit when it was sold. That's why I said in the first post that I'd be happy if I could get £3k.

I've renovated bikes and cars in the past and know that the only way you're going to make a small fortune is to start with a large fortune.

I built it because I always wanted to build my own car and to a good standard. I've really enjoyed it. My garage has always been my second home. At one time I had two bikes,two jetskis, a go kart and still found space renovate a lambretta. Been there. Done that. Time to move on.

Now .Is it tall enough to get a home built plane in there?

I have been contemplating a mini max build in my garage. With the advent of single seat deregulation you can build some cool aircraft and no dreaded iva!

[gaz05]

Step away from the Mark Evans 'is born' dvds !!! Plane or chopper???

Russ
I have been contemplating a mini max build in my garage. With the advent of single seat deregulation you can build some cool aircraft and no dreaded iva!
It's unlikely to happen in my case . There's just so many things to overcome, the biggest if which is insurance. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want to insure a plane that's been knocked up in someone's garage. Finding a lightweight yet powerful enough engine is still a huge problem facing people trying to go the SSDR route. Rotax seem to have cornered the market but their two strokes are notoriously unreliable and their four strokes start at £15k!! And they're still relatively heavy for a SSDR.

But never say never. The British hang glider pilots association membership apparently covers SSDR now so you never know.

[twinturbo]

I like it, but I kinda wana finish mine...


TT

[gaz05]

Car now sold

[norton]

Hey, I know this is cheeky given you've moved on from the car, do you have any pictures of make the ally rear and side panels?

[gaz05]

I haven't sorry. The main thing is to keep annealing it with a blowtorch to soften it up in the areas you're going to bend. Clamp to the frame using a long solid block of wood and slowly pean it over with a smaller block of wood. You may have to keep taking it off to anneal it again as it hardens when you're working it. Don't be tempted to bend it where you don't have a good wooden support. Best of luck

[wylliezx9r]

I've made a drawing for the side panel in aluminum which is dimensionally similar to the fiberglass type. I can email to anybody who's interested. Worked a treat on my car. I got a local firm to cut and bend them for me to the drawing, cost me 120 quid including the material. Then I covered them in vinyl, look and fit much better than the fiberglass ones I had previously.

[norton]

Thanks gaz!

Wyllie, yes please!

[NeilW]

Likewise, I'd be interested in the drawings to.
Cheers

[alga]

norton, just open up the book and read the page about side panels. It's one of the easiest and most pleasant jobs on the car.

I made a paper template according to the drawing in the book and verified it on the car. Then I bought some sheets of 1mm half-hard 1050A sheeting, for about £30 an 8'x4' sheet. I did most of the cutting with the 1 mm disk on the angle grinder. Pretty acceptable if you don't have a power nibbler or something like that. I bent the edges of the side panels before trying them on, but the right way is to clamp the panels in place and then bend the flaps around the chassis. Don't put the bend in the middle where there's an angle in the chassis, let the panel find its own line, it's much neater that way.

I did the same with the back panel: a template out of thick paper, cut out with an angle grinder and 1mm disk, filed off the edges, attached to the back with two self-tapping screws (clecos would be nicer), wrapped the side bends, riveted the sides into place, then replaced the screws with rivets, then bent the top and bottom. The compound bends on the top and bottom rear corners are hard to do neatly, but even if they're crumpled a bit they're normally covered. I saw a film on youtube how Caterham does it, they mangle the sheet into place, too, and later sand it flat.

I didn't have to anneal half-hard 1050A, it's malleable enough without it.

[norton]

I agree, I could do that but, I couldn't cut a sheet out as neatly or accurately as a cnc laser. And as its on the exterior of the car and always visible I think it could be worth pushing the boat out.

As I've built to saturns plans and omitted the rear panel rails I'll need to back track and retrofit them however the appeal of ally bodywork is growing...

[alga]

I wouldn't worry about neat and accurate edges. Most of them are hidden from view. Also, whatever marring you put onto panels from the blocks of wood when bending the panels, it will pale in comparison with the damage you'll get when using the car :-)

[norton]

Well, at least it could look nice once!