cosworth 24v

[bobbyh]

after many years of ideas i think/hope to be getting my engine this weekend a cosworth 24v v6 i will convert it to a manual gearbox as the type 9 of a sierra xr4i fits on and with the flywheel and clutch.

i will prob spend some money on it and put throttle bodes on in and some standalone management. will be worth the money for the sound and the looks.

hope all your builds are going well and hi to all the new people on the forum since i was last hear.

Regards

Bobby

[Davey]

Hi Bobby, I'm also using the Cossie V6, cheap as chips for plenty of grunt. I'm going to use Honda CBR600 throttle bodies, already got two sets split down into pairs so just need to fabricate the manifold, alternatively (if you have lots of money) Jenvey do a setup for the Cosworth V6. I want to go with an Emerald ECU but again they're bleedin' expensive. There are a couple of other builders using the V6 too.

D.

[markeastman]

I havent started the build yet but i plan to use the v6, iv just googled jenvey, now i know what fuel system i want on the car :-)

Mark

[bobbyh]

Hi Bobby, I'm also using the Cossie V6, cheap as chips for plenty of grunt. I'm going to use Honda CBR600 throttle bodies, already got two sets split down into pairs so just need to fabricate the manifold, alternatively (if you have lots of money) Jenvey do a setup for the Cosworth V6. I want to go with an Emerald ECU but again they're bleedin' expensive. There are a couple of other builders using the V6 too.

D.


well if you get it all working well then let me know and i may be looking at how to get the TB's on there. i was looking a emeraled dave walker the owner seems to know his stuff from what i have read.

is ur v6 out of the scorpio or grander (or how ever you spell it). when you planing to get Your car on the road?

regards

bobby

[twinturbo]

www.fordpower.org.uk

If you need information on the 24V

I have one in my Sapphire, had a Scorpio 24V for a while too.

TT

[Davey]

well if you get it all working well then let me know and i may be looking at how to get the TB's on there. i was looking a emeraled dave walker the owner seems to know his stuff from what i have read.

is ur v6 out of the scorpio or grander (or how ever you spell it). when you planing to get Your car on the road?

regards

bobby

My V6 is from a 1990 Granada Scorpio Cosworth, the BOA engine. Would love to have it on the road this summer but I fear that may be a bit too ambitious, more for my wallet than my skills. You can read a bit about my build on my website, link below.

The Jenvey ITBs and manifold look real sweet but I'm too scared to look at the price:eek: . annoyingly they're only based about 7 miles from me which makes them very tempting for an expensive visit. Managed to get two sets of CBR600 throttle bodies off the Bay of E for a total of £64 and the second set were only 8 miles away. They split easily into pairs but it'll mean the inlet tracts of the manifold have to skew a bit to allow the ITBs to line up in pairs. I haven't drawn anything up yet but I have a picture in my mind of how they should look.

D.

[bobbyh]

have you convert it to a manual gearbox?

if you are i have been told i need a bearing for something what is this bearing for and where does it go?

[twinturbo]

You need a spigot bearing, it goes into the end of the crank where the gearbox input shaft slides through the clutch. Without it the input shaft will wobble and destroy the gearbox in no time at all.

Available from ford, ask for a 2.9 XR4x4 Crank spigot bearing. sould be about £10, can get em on ebay but not a lot cheaper.

Which box do you intend to use?

TT

[twinturbo]

I am running a V6 Type 9 on my 12V, some say they are not up to the task on a 24V but with the light weight of a Haynes it should be ok.

My Sapphy has 4x4,

You can build a Hybrid MT75 using a Scorpio 2.5 Diesel RWD box and a 2.9 XR4x4 Box. But it's not a simple belhousing swap as the belhousing is part of the front casssing.

TT

[bobbyh]

i was goint go witht he type 9 are it so easy to swap over and all the parts can come off the xr4i. i also thought that about the waight. thanks for the help.

how heavy is the engien?

[les g]

Hello Bobbyh
where have you been hiding
nice to have back on the forum
cheers les g

what happened to your plan to fit a big bike engine
i thought you was after a hyabusa

[bobbyh]

Been busy at work and had no money i crashed my car the other week.

well i got chating to a guy at a party and he had a cosworth v6 and was selling it for £100 so i thought why not.

just sorting out buying it now i should get it next weekend.

how is your build going les?

[twinturbo]

Make sure you pull off the timing cover and ,make sure the timing tensioner blade is in good order.

TT

[bobbyh]

got any pics of them in good order?

is there any other tings i should have a look at?

[twinturbo]

This is what a new, Upgraded genuine ford blade looks like. they tend to wear through the nylon slipper and then through the metal ( not as strong on the early version ) and then the blad snaps. The chain goes loose and the timing slips, the valves hit the head ... ETC...

You need to check this and that the guides for the chains are also in good order.

TT

[bobbyh]

so the main issues with these engines are them?

how much would it cost to replae them if they are worn?

what other test do you do on an engien to see if its sound when it all ready out of the car?

thanks for the help

[twinturbo]

http://shop.ebay.co.uk/?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m38.l1313&_nkw=boa+blade&_sacat=See-All-Categories

Note, the Ukrainian ones are made with a less tough slipper material.

TT

[bobbyh]

ok so they cost lots then!!

any other cheeks i should do on a engine that has been sat and not in the car to see if its sound?

[twinturbo]

Main thing will be to check that blade ad the other timing componnets for ware. check the oild pump for debris in the strainer, although this is going to need to be modified anyway to allow for the shorter sump.

Note: The cam cover gaskets are not available from any normal source. They were never provided seperatly by ford and only came with the cam cover complete. So if you damage one, go to boostperformance for a remanufactured replacement.

TT

[bobbyh]

thanks m8 sorry to sound really think but what sort of tools will i need to check these things? thanks m8

[twinturbo]

Standard socket set will get it all appart, you may need a TORX bit for the oil pump.

There is a hidden bolt on the top rear of the timing cover in the V-Valley.

JUNK the Viscous fan while your there.

TT

[bobbyh]

cool well i can have a look at the timing chain and stuff when b4 i buy it but willl look at the oil pump after.

how far along are you with your build?

[bobbyh]

just paid £40 for the engine and gearbox not bad really

[Davey]

Good result there Bobby. I paid £360 for a complete car with 8 months MOT, 60K on the clock and full service history. Only faults with the entire car were a FUBAR slushbox and five ancient tyres.

D.

[twinturbo]

Last car I bought for 300+160 delivery.

I have sold £500 of bits of it excluding the engine, box , brakes, wheels and hubs!!

Bought one engine for 100 complete with a spare 12v... + colection £40 ... Sold box, cats and bits of 12v for £150 ... So bargin

TT

[bobbyh]

to tell the truth its going to need some work and parts. any one know where i can get rocker covers from?

[twinturbo]

whats wrong with them?

TT

[bobbyh]

lack of them is the main problem lol

i think i will change the cams as well as the chain the blade looks ok so that is good