What Thrust Bearing?

[james3004]

This has probably been covered before...

I'm using a 1.8 zetec bottom end, and mt75 box. I know i can use a 1.8 zetec clutch, but what thrust bearing do i use??

[Big Vern]

The only one I know of is the westfield special but they're very touchy about selling to non westfield owners. Other option is to mod the release arm to move the release BRG closer to the clutch cover but be careful you don't run out of travel on the first motion shaft cover!

HTH BV.

[deezee]

Don't most people use a CT133 from Quinton Hazell? I used a Capri release bearing on my build to make up the slack between the gearbox and clutch.

[james3004]

http://www.westfield-sportscars.co.uk/shop/product.asp?numRecordPosition=7&P_ID=254&strPageHistory=cat&strKeywords=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=77

:eek: £61!!!

is that the only option?

[ozzy1]

What about trying Burton power or Raceline ?

[snapper]

I got the ECB 113 from Burtons, it uses a carrier that is 8mm thicker

[Big Vern]

CT 133 is the one to use for type 9 box though there has been issues even with this combo.
THe burton one has an 8mm extension for use with racing clutches but I think you need more than 8mm with the Zetec/MT75 combo.
TT will probably know what combo works

[spud69]

Have a read of this thread, 3rd post down, from Locost builders:

http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=81537

It gives you everything necessary for Zetec to Type 9 or MT-75, and as Vern states it looks like you need to obtain the modified release bearing for the MT-75 otherwise the CCT133 will work with the Type 9 box.

I have a type 9 with a 2.0l Zetec and combined they work great together, as i'm going to remind myself of tonight.....:D

All the Best....AndyH

[james3004]

Quote: "The Zetec engine will need to be fitted with a spigot bearing in the centre of the flywheel to accommodate the input shaft of the gearbox. It's not required by the original Mondeo / Escort gearbox . It is a Standard Ford part Finis No:1596468 "

What is a spigot bearing? :confused:

[Big Vern]

The spigot brg fits in the back of the crankshaft and the front of the gbox first motion shaft rides in it.
It supports the first motion shaft to stop it flapping around like a d%*k in a shirt sleeve!
The westfield release brg is the one you'll need and good luck with getting hold of one as Westfield are pretty fiesty about selling to non westfield owners.

BV.

[Bonzo]

Hi James

The spigot bearing is a caged set of needle bearings.

The reason as to why you need to fit one is to support the end of the input shaft of the gearbox at the flywheel.

Ford front wheel drive cars have a very short gearbox input shaft & a spiggot bearing is not needed at the flywheel.

The Ford type 9 & MT75 gearboxes have very long input shafts & need to be supported at the flywheel.

No big deal to fit one as the flywheel is pre drilled ready to accept one ;)


EDIT

BV Beat me to it :o



Hope that helps :)

[james3004]

Will the one out of the 2.0 dohc engine that came with the gearbox fit as i'm not using that engine?
Or are the different sizes?

[Bonzo]

Hi James

Sorry to have misslead you a little .... When I say that the gearbox shaft is supported at the flywheel. I in fact mean, supported in the crankshaft.

for some silly reason I thought if I said flywheel it would be easier to understand :o :o
Forgive me, I have had a stressfull day :)

The spiggot bearing fits in the crankshaft ( This will be drilled, ready to accept the new bearing )

It is highly unlikey that you would be able to remove the old one without destroying it.
Probably be wise to use a new one in any event, there could be a fair bit of wear on the old one ;)

[james3004]

Not to worry Bonzo, a new one is only £15.56 with VAT and delivery from Ford parts direct:D

[alga]

They're a lot cheaper at the bearing factors. Code HK1516. I got mine for 75p :-P, even though they're normally £2-5 depending on the make.

[james3004]

After a search of the net i have found a drawing of the spacer that westfield araldite the the standard bearing:)

I think i'll get one made up at work but not really sure what the best material to use would be?

It says on the drawing that it has to me 19mm depth but, different people say different things ranging from 19mm, 19.5mm or 20mm

Thought other people might find this useful (maybe the andy's at saturn could undercut westfield on this and make it more available to the public;) )

[flyerncle]

I would try making an extension tube to mount over the the clutch release bearing mounting tube to give as much surface area as possible for it to ride on.
Westfield must know what works and what does not,my humble opinion is that it looks like a possible problem in a fairly short time in the way it is "glued". :eek: