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TheArf
10th September 2010, 09:14 PM
Hi, have spent the afternoon in the garage and managed to get the bottom frame tacked together. Boy oh boy, do I hate the from frame. About two weeks ago I built a jig for the assembly of the front frame. I spent ages on Wednesday enening cutting all the angles and checking each and every angle and length three times over. I placed them all into the jig and proceeded to tack it all together, removed it from the jig to find nothing was right. The 75mm off set was 83mm and nothing was right. I eventually found that the base board had warped and this was throwing everything out, so I took it all apart and re-did it all without the jig and it came out right happy days. I have up loaded some photos and hopefully this link will give some idea of progress made.
Arfon
http://s900.photobucket.com/albums/ac207/TheArf/haynesbuild/
HandyAndy
10th September 2010, 09:28 PM
Nice work Arfon,
The front frame can be a little blighter:eek: , so well done on keeping at it:cool:
I look forward to seeing more pics of your build:)
Keep an eye on the position of U7 ;)
cheers
andy
TheArf
10th September 2010, 09:35 PM
Thanks Andy, I think it can be said that the front frame could be the son of Satan, and the cause of many cases of insanity
Arfon
http://s900.photobucket.com/albums/ac207/TheArf/haynesbuild/
HandyAndy
10th September 2010, 09:40 PM
I think it can be said that the front frame could be the son of Satan, and the cause of many cases of insanity
Arfon
http://s900.photobucket.com/albums/ac207/TheArf/haynesbuild/
:D
It gets easier the more you make ;)
But, yes, my very first attempt at the front frame ended up flying across the garage :eek: so you are not alone , now takes me about 15 mins from start to finish
Like your workshop too :cool:
cheers
andy
TheArf
10th September 2010, 09:51 PM
Wish I could do it in 15mins, as for the workshop I am very lucky as I have a great mother-in-law whos' garage it is and as she doesn't drive she has given me free-rain to have it as I want it
Arfon
http://s900.photobucket.com/albums/ac207/TheArf/haynesbuild/
HandyAndy
10th September 2010, 09:57 PM
I am very lucky as I have a great mother-in-law
Arfon
http://s900.photobucket.com/albums/ac207/TheArf/haynesbuild/
I have a great mother in law too.......sadly not due to having a great workshop at my disposal.....the great bit is ........she,s 350 miles away :D :D
Sorry, I jest:o
Its great when "The Family" support what you are building , nice one :cool:
cheers
andy
TheArf
10th September 2010, 10:04 PM
Even the other half thinks it's great, I think she thinks she is going to get behind the wheel, as if I would let her risk herself behind the wheel of something so wild
Arfon
http://s900.photobucket.com/albums/ac207/TheArf/haynesbuild/
TheArf
10th September 2010, 10:17 PM
Just a quick question while you are on here Andy, I am having trouble with my Tig welder is this gas ok for mild steel with a tig set, it works ok with the mig and I was wondering if the problem was with the gas through the set because my the earth, etc all seem to be ok, even checked the collet is the right one for the tungsten etc.
Arfon
p.s the photo of the cylinder is in the attached
http://s900.photobucket.com/home/TheArf/index
3GE Components
10th September 2010, 10:25 PM
Hi TheArf,
Before you get too far in the build, where's this junction in your frame?
http://i900.photobucket.com/albums/ac207/TheArf/haynesbuild/DSCN0544.jpg
Are you sure you've got everything marked out correctly?
Kind regards
John
twinturbo
10th September 2010, 10:30 PM
it is odd..
TT
james3004
10th September 2010, 10:50 PM
It looks like it could be BR3,5,11, which would mean BR11 is too long:confused:
davidimurray
10th September 2010, 11:08 PM
For TIG welding you want to use pure Argon
HandyAndy
10th September 2010, 11:51 PM
Well spotted John ,
Arfon...... I,ve just had a closer look at your build photos, in particular the 2nd photo on page 2......
With the position that your earth clamp is attached to your chassis & also looking at the junction of BR1/BR3 with BR10 it appears that you have both BR10 & BR11 positioned incorrectly, these 2 parts don,t have an open end tube on the outside of the chassis.
I can,t see the ends of BR12 but would suggest to check that one too.
cheers
andy
TheArf
11th September 2010, 07:42 AM
Thanks for pointing it out, but i did post about making an alteration to these as I thought it would make a stronger weld a little while back. Instead of the outer rails just butting up end to end I think I can get a stronger weld with everything butting up at 90 deg to each other, all I have done is increase the length of the crossmembers by 50mm and decreased the outer rails to compensate. All of my diagonal dimensions are exactly the same as the book so I can't foresee any problems, boy you guys don't miss much
Arfon
3GE Components
11th September 2010, 09:43 AM
Hi Arfon,
That's OK, I was more worried that you'd cut the tubes and arranged them out wrong, resulting in a chassis that's 50mm narrower and 50mm longer.
Everyone has their own take on things, and no two roadsters are going to be the same :D That's the beauty of the Roadster.
Kind regards
John
TheArf
11th September 2010, 09:54 AM
Thanks for the concern it's good to know people are always willing to help in anyway shape or form. I also think its great that the design is so flexable that people can put their own slant on things and I am hoping to get back into the garage sometime today and start the uprights
Arfon
HandyAndy
11th September 2010, 10:26 AM
Nice work Arfon,
As John said, :)
cheers
andy
TheArf
11th September 2010, 11:05 AM
By the way Andy like the new toolbox but I think it would look a lot better in a garage I know of in North Wales, so if it is cluttering your place and getting in your way you know where to send it
Arfon
HandyAndy
12th September 2010, 11:08 AM
By the way Andy like the new toolbox but I think it would look a lot better in a garage I know of in North Wales, so if it is cluttering your place and getting in your way you know where to send it
Arfon
:eek: Noooooooooooooooo :D its taken me ages to get one ....I,m keeping it, LOL.
Cheers tho..... I like a bargain, & now no excuse for losing my sockets :o :D
cheers
andy
TheArf
12th September 2010, 03:25 PM
Well if you sent it here complete with sockets I would protect it all from being used and abused ha ha
Deanno
12th September 2010, 04:43 PM
Hi Arfon,
good to see a fellow Welshman hard at work building his car :D
Great looking build.
May I ask what saw you used to cut the metal and if possible how much and where you got it from.
Cheers
Dean
TheArf
12th September 2010, 06:28 PM
Hi Dean, I'm using the rage3 chopsaw with the general purpose blade. I didn't buy it for this job so I didn't have to explain where it came from to swmbo. It cost £120 in the sale at B&Q two and a half years ago, to build a decking in the garden. It is very accurate provided you take the time to setup the vertical plane with a square and not relay on the scale on the machine. It is a lot easier than a hacksaw.
TheArf
12th September 2010, 06:41 PM
How far are you into your build, I've not done anything today as swmbo wants to change her car so we have been out to have a look. One good thing is I have booked tomorrow off so hope to make some progress again.
Deanno
12th September 2010, 07:17 PM
should have started by now, but as we are moving out of our rented house (Long Story) we are moving into our new house on the 1st Nov if not sooner so I ended up spending the money i had for the steel buying the nosecone and scuttle from saturn.
Cheers for the info about the saw.
Dean
TheArf
13th September 2010, 09:14 AM
Not a problem mate, November will soon be here then get swmbo to exile you to the garage and you will soon be getting into the build. Don't forgat they like photos on here
TheArf
13th September 2010, 08:29 PM
Well had a good and bad day today. I started to put into place all the uprights in place and tacked them in place. I then started to put in the top frame and also tacked them into place. Just looking around at the build when I stoped for a drink and i noticed that the drivers side of front frame had lifted by 1mm. Lots of head scratching followed before I realised that U2 was slightly in the wrong place causing it to twist. Sorted it out took a few photos to add, and came home with a look of satisfaction on my face
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