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Deanno
22nd September 2010, 01:01 PM
I'm not sure what to do?
inorder to use the age related plates what do I need to use of the donor as I'm using my Escort engine but other donor parts I bought here and there?

Also I always thought it was cheaper to insure a "Q" plate is this true?

Cheers
Dean

Bonzo
22nd September 2010, 02:21 PM
Hi Dean

To give yourself the best chance of an age related number plate, ideally, you would use a single donor.
The impotant thing is to keep your paperwork in tip top order .... Donor cars V5 on SORN & registered to you is a good starting point ;)

That's not to say that you can't swap some parts for new ones or like for like.

In my own case, all of the parts from a single donor exept the engine .... In theory I should still qualify for an age related plate ( Issued under the points system )
That said, I know that some local DVLA offices can be difficult to deal with & have different views as to what is allowed ( In spite of the information contained in their own web site !!?? ) :rolleyes: :)

I'll request an age related plate & if I am given a Q, i'll not loose any sleep over it :)

Deanno
22nd September 2010, 04:06 PM
with regards to the V5 i'm only using the steering rack with wheel and storks, alloy wheels and engine inc loom and then i'm going to seel the shell (not to the scrappie) as it is a 3 door escort.

what would i do then regarding the V5?

Cheers
Dean

Big Vern
22nd September 2010, 07:43 PM
Hi Deano,

To get age related plates you need the original or exact replacement bodyshell and two major components OR, pretty much all the donor parts from a single vehicle (any part replaced much be exact same as fitted to donor), in the case of the haynes roadster. You need to score at least 8 points and without using the original bodyshell then you need to use all the parts front the donor including engine to get the required 8 points.

FWIW there is no practical value in an age related plate, particularly with regards to kit cars, so I can never work out why people are so hung up on them....
A Q plate will allow you to build the car with the bits you want to use straight away and not have to bugger the car about afterwards.

HTH BV.

acra
23rd September 2010, 02:10 PM
Is there actually any issue with having a Q plate?
From what I can tell, it's actually a lot less hassle getting a Q plate, but no real loss.

When it comes to selling, anyone who is capable of looking after all the paperwork required to register an age plate, should be able to look after documentation that proves the age of components in a Q plate, so there shouldn't be any loss in value there either.

Unless you wanted to fit a personalised plate afterwards, is there anything bad about the 'dreaded Q plate?'
I'm imagining it wouldn't affect insurance?

Just speculation, as I'm thinking about starting my build with the intention of Q plating it for ease :)

twinturbo
23rd September 2010, 03:43 PM
The private plate transfer is the only issue I can think of.

TT

Deanno
23rd September 2010, 08:14 PM
personally I prefer a Q plate as I'm not building a replica I could understand if someone wanted to build a replica Ferrari of Lambo or if they wanted a personalised plate.
I know it sound wieird but i think its the final peice for a kit car

Big Vern
23rd September 2010, 09:00 PM
Age related plates arn't transferable! so I would assume the private plate thing not possible on kit cars.....

BV.

mr henderson
23rd September 2010, 09:08 PM
Age related plates arn't transferable! so I would assume the private plate thing not possible on kit cars.....

BV.

My understanding is that you can have a plate that is the same age, or older than, an age related plate, that's it's only Q plates that can't be transferred. Not certain of that, but I've heard it a few times.

snapper
24th September 2010, 07:45 AM
Mr Henderson is correct.

Bonzo
24th September 2010, 10:57 AM
My understanding is that you can have a plate that is the same age, or older than, an age related plate, that's it's only Q plates that can't be transferred.


Thank's for confirming my own research, that is also my understanding of the current situation. :)

I was beginnig to think that I was having a senior moment, more so when I noticed that some of the relavant information, is no longer on the DVLA's web site :confused:
There used to be a well defined points system that could be used to check your age related number plate entitlememt ( Can't find it anymore though ) !!??

Was reading some interesting information on a Cobra builders forum the other night.
Got the general idea that the old point's system had been revised, every major component is now worth 1 point & 2 point's are all that is needed to qualify for an age related plate.

Have not got a clue as to how building a Cobra compares to the process of a Roadster build but they were recent posts.

Must say, the registation process seems to be a minefield to navigate & as with the IVA , forevermore evolving :eek:

A personal plate is the only reason for my desire for an age related plate & only time will tell on that one :)

Big Vern
24th September 2010, 01:06 PM
Us usuall Mr Henderson is correct - hmm if so why can I not transfer a private plate onto a car that has been given an age related plate - DVLA refused as, to quote 'age related plates are NON transferable'
Therefore how can an age related plate on a kit car be transferable as age related plates are considered the same regardless of vehicle type they are issued to!


BV.

Bonzo
24th September 2010, 01:52 PM
Hmmm .... a little confused here :confused: :confused:

DVLA information obtained from here

Registration transfer (http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/PersonalisedRegAndNumberPlates/DG_4022576)

& here

DVLA INF46 (http://www.direct.gov.uk/prod_consum_dg/groups/dg_digitalassets/@dg/@en/@motor/documents/digitalasset/dg_067671.pdf)

INF46 states that if will say on your V5C if the registration number is non transferable.

Perhaps someone who has recently registerered a build on an age related plate will have a look on their V5C to see if there is a marker on it :)

Big Vern
24th September 2010, 07:28 PM
Hi Ronnie,

Yes indeed the direct.gov website stuff suggests you should be able to transfer unless the V5c states its non transferable.
Nothing on my V5c to say it's not transferable though, but the DVLA themselves insist age related plates are NON transferable.

I would be keen to here from anyone who has actually put a personal reg on a vehicle which has had age related plates as I'm still keen to get rid of the hateful reg number I seem to have got stuck with and get my 'cherished number' where it should be.....


BV.

AshG
24th September 2010, 09:34 PM
dogwood got an age related plate on his roadster then transferred his private plate onto it no problem