View Full Version : 5 Min job .... Right !!
Bonzo
2nd October 2010, 09:37 PM
What is it with those 5 min jobs ?? :rolleyes:
A good while back I bought a Suzuki Bandit silencer from ebay .... Got it for next to nowt as it had 2 of the 3 flange studs snapped off.
Thought at the time, how hard can that be to sort out.
Today I found out .... Very hard :D
Here's me thinking that they were splined studs ( Like wheel studs )
Turns out that they were dome headed studs & the best bit was, they were welded to the internal body of the silencer !!
Out came the slitting disk & cut the flange end of the silencer off
Once the alloy section was removed, I cut the internal flange off, ground the studs out, welded new ones on & finally welded the inner section back together.
That took me most of the day !!??
No wonder my build is taking so long :o
Tomorrows job is to TIG weld the alloy section back together.
I guess at the price I paid, it will be worthwhile.
David Murray was spot on when told me that it would not be a very straightforward job .... Good call mate :)
HandyAndy
2nd October 2010, 09:58 PM
I,ve come across a few "5 minute jobs" that seem to take closer to 5 hours :eek:
But once they are completed I find its a very satisfying feeling of "smuggness" knowing that the end result looks good :cool: ..........even tho it was a pain in the jacksie getting the job done
When I fitted my seat back panel........pre drilled all the rivet holes etc, thought to myself "Hmmm that looks quite smart" then began the job of rivetting it in place.....easy peasy 5 minute job ......by the time I,d finished it I was so knackered & had biceps like Popeye :D (air rivet gun now on shopping list )
Post up a photo of the finished article Ronnie :cool:
cheers
andy
flyerncle
2nd October 2010, 10:04 PM
Put my floor on today.,thank the lord for air riveter's.
Passenger side is getting welded !
Bonzo
2nd October 2010, 10:11 PM
Put my floor on today.,thank the lord for air riveter's.
Passenger side is getting welded !
That job is a real time eater Paul :eek:
Thank god I had junior on hand to pop all of those rivets :)
Embarrased to say mate, I never had the energy to pop em :o :o
Bonzo
2nd October 2010, 10:15 PM
Post up a photo of the finished article Ronnie :cool:
cheers
andy
Will do Andy .... Well, that's if I don't cock it up at the final hurdle :D :D
I hate rivets :eek:
twinturbo
2nd October 2010, 10:23 PM
strange, I have no issues with the rivets using a scissor riviter.
TT
Bonzo
2nd October 2010, 10:29 PM
strange, I have no issues with the rivets using a scissor riviter.
TT
The good old Lazy tongue riveter, certainly makes short work of the job :cool:
Unfortuanately my late fathers one can't take 4mm rivets :(
flyerncle
2nd October 2010, 10:30 PM
Gluton for punishment Ronnie,thank God for Junior.
I did go mental with usual overengineering.
Easy life TT !!!
Bonzo
2nd October 2010, 10:39 PM
Gluton for punishment Ronnie,thank God for Junior.
I did go mental with usual overengineering.
Easy life TT !!!
I did sort of errr ummm, go completely bezerk with them paul :D
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj266/Bonzoronnie/100_0262.jpg
I hope they hold, one thing for sure, it don't go boing when you step on it :)
Time for some sleepy bye's methinks .... 3 hour's past my usual bed time :o
HandyAndy
2nd October 2010, 10:42 PM
strange, I have no issues with the rivets using a scissor riviter.
TT
:o for those of you who haven,t met me...I,m a erm "skinny, with less muscle than a chicken leg" type of build :D & sadly only have the standard rivet type gun,
Air rivet gun will be purchased before my next build ;):D
cheers
andy
twinturbo
2nd October 2010, 10:45 PM
I did sort of errr ummm, go completely bezerk with them paul :D
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj266/Bonzoronnie/100_0262.jpg
I hope they hold, one thing for sure, it don't go boing when you step on it :)
Time for some sleepy bye's methinks .... 3 hour's past my usual bed time :o
I went for 40mm Spacing. Seems more than solid with the sticky crap.. Have 2 extra rails for the seats though.
TT
alga
2nd October 2010, 11:35 PM
My riveter is not the lazy tongues type, it's got two long handles. When using it most of the effort went into putting the rivets in the riveter, it pops a 3.2 mm rivet in one motion.
http://locost.lt/pic/353
Bonzo
3rd October 2010, 10:57 AM
Now that's what I call a rivet gun Albert :cool: :)
Even I could pop a rivet with one of those :D
flyerncle
3rd October 2010, 11:40 AM
I have one aswell and it puts in rivnuts no bother and thinking about what I did I really am losing the plot,I riveted a steel floor !:rolleyes:
Passenger side is getting a few rivets and weld the rest.
Bonzo
3rd October 2010, 12:09 PM
thinking about what I did I really am losing the plot,I riveted a steel floor !:rolleyes:
A chuckle never even left my lips mate :D
Happen's to the best of us, me more so than most.
Cutting the end from the silencer yesterday was fun .... Must have munched into 4mm of alloy before it dawned on me that the flange part was hell of a lot thicker than I thought it was ( That'll teach me not to measure things ) :o
Oh well, just another weld to do :rolleyes:
flyerncle
3rd October 2010, 12:50 PM
You weld ally brilliantly (hate you !!).Bought an AC/dc tig and destroying everything with it.
My tip for removing broken studs from car exhausts,slit the flange inline with stud and open it up slightly with thin chisel/screwdriver.
Putting studs on the inside is typical Japanese crazy logic.
Just sitting watching Mark Evans A Racing Car is Born,what a flakey loon !.
davidimurray
3rd October 2010, 06:31 PM
Sorry it was so much work Ronnie :p But at least you should be sorted soon.
When it comes to rivets I cheated and bought one of those cheap air hydraulic riveters :D
Bonzo
3rd October 2010, 08:06 PM
You called it spot on David, I was the one being a cheapskate & bought a bargain basement dammaged can :D
This is the can with the end removed
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj266/Bonzoronnie/Banditcan1.jpg
Had to cut the inner section off so as I could grind off the studs welded head.
Once the new studs were welded fast, it was just a matter of welding it back on.
Here's the alloy end section welded back on
http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj266/Bonzoronnie/Banditcan2.jpg
Had a bit of a struggle as the alloy was anodised & very dirty.
Two welds to do, me being a complete muppet & made my first cut right into the full meat of the flange .... Doh
Should look reasonably presentable once linished up.
That can should do nicely until I can afford some bling :)
Turned out to be a very cheap part & only cost me some time ( Lots ) & a bit of gas.
flyerncle
3rd October 2010, 08:11 PM
See what I mean !!!:p
Davey
3rd October 2010, 08:20 PM
Sorry it was so much work Ronnie :p But at least you should be sorted soon.
When it comes to rivets I cheated and bought one of those cheap air hydraulic riveters :D
I totally agree, Ronnie makes TIG welding appear easy and it really isn't that easy to do pretty :( .
Doncha just hate people who make quality work look so simple?
Only kiddin' Ronnie, ya know's we luvs ya really:D
D.
flyerncle
3rd October 2010, 08:42 PM
The last time I welded ally was in the early seventies as an apprentice and the set was the size of a small car and water cooled 3 phase,even the HF set was the size of inverter machine's these days.
More practice !!!!
Bonzo
3rd October 2010, 08:42 PM
Paul & Davey
I guess all of those years of gas welding/brazing has a good deal to do with it .
Have also spent most of my working life ( Welding wise ) living in the shaddow of my little brother .... His hand is so steady, I could slap his face :D :D
Really wish that I lived a bit closer to some you guys, I would love to be able to help out :)
HandyAndy
3rd October 2010, 08:50 PM
Thats looking great Ronnie :cool:
Tell you what .....if you were into motorcycle racing as I was, you would be in high demand doing repairs to expensive racing bikes with welding "that" good , wow :cool:
We kept falling off & needed quality repairs :eek: :D
cheers
andy
twinturbo
3rd October 2010, 09:25 PM
Paul & Davey
I guess all of those years of gas welding/brazing has a good deal to do with it .
Have also spent most of my working life ( Welding wise ) living in the shaddow of my little brother .... His hand is so steady, I could slap his face :D :D
Really wish that I lived a bit closer to some you guys, I would love to be able to help out :)
I could gas weld neatly once, when I was doing GCSE Metal.
Not touched a set since :(
TT
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