Any good?

[JHewitt]

Looked at this deal on the bay a few times, seems a good deal, but has anyone here bought these, and can give a good/bad review? or of course suggest an alernative?
Joe.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Front-Hub-Joint-Kit-saver-pack-Locost-westfield-/390256794076?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5add1e19dc

[spud69]

Looked at this deal on the bay a few times, seems a good deal, but has anyone here bought these, and can give a good/bad review? or of course suggest an alernative?
Joe.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Front-Hub-Joint-Kit-saver-pack-Locost-westfield-/390256794076?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5add1e19dc

Thats a good price for all three Joe, cheaper than i can get them trade from Rally Designs.

AndyH

[twinturbo]

Need Sierra TRE though not Escort ones.

TT

[davedew]

Ordered my set last week on the Wednesday, had them ready to fit on the Friday. It was the cheapest place I could find, better than any of the autofactors we deal with.

Escort RS2000 (Mk2 Escort) TRE fit fine. Plenty of people have used them, and I know SSC sell them for use on the roadster.

Cheers

Dave

[MikeB]

Seem to remember I bought RS2000 TRE from rally design last time round and they didn't fit had to swap them for Sierra ones. I may be going mad.

Mike

[spud69]

The RS2000 track rod ends fit the Escort Mk2 rack, metric threads, if you try a Mk1 rack rack they have the imperial threads which they will not fit.

You should be okay......AndyH

[JHewitt]

Cheers guys, so they will fit, no they won't , yes they will, no they won't, yes they will.:confused: :D

Think I will go for it, then and as long as I get the mk2 escort rack I will be ok.:)

[Trophy Blue]

It really irritate3s me when they describe RS2000 track rod ends. There is no difference between a 1100L TRE and a RS2000 TRE. As far as I know, all metric TRE's will fit ie. Escort, Cortina, Sierra's all the same tapers, threads etc

[alga]

On the Sierra rod ends the axis of the rod is is not centered on the ball, it is shifted forwards about 5 mm. Escort rod ends are symmetrical. Also, Sierra rod ends have a triangular protrusion that might cause a radius issue.

[gaz05]

I bought the EDS saver pack and it doesn't fit. Spoke to EDS and it would appear these are for Cortina and Capri uprights. The TRE taper is way too small for the taper hole in my diesel Sierra uprights. The drag link doesn't go all the way through the 3GE mushrooms to allow a full nut on. I can't ream them out either because the rubber is already up against the top of the mushroom. It might work if I get the mushrooms turned down a bit more but non access to a lathe was the reason I bought them in the first place.

It never rains but it bloody pours.

[JHewitt]

I bought the EDS saver pack and it doesn't fit. Spoke to EDS and it would appear these are for Cortina and Capri uprights. The TRE taper is way too small for the taper hole in my diesel Sierra uprights. The drag link doesn't go all the way through the 3GE mushrooms to allow a full nut on. I can't ream them out either because the rubber is already up against the top of the mushroom. It might work if I get the mushrooms turned down a bit more but non access to a lathe was the reason I bought them in the first place.

It never rains but it bloody pours.

Well gaz, on the plus side for me, at least I hadn't bought them yet, as I was saving for some other bits and bobs needed before. Not that that helps you, but you have helped me, so please now have a warm feeling inside.
Joe.

[davedew]

Gaz,

Have you actually tried doing up the nuts on the joints or are you saying they dont fit by just dropping the joints into position? Reason I am saying this is that the rubber boots on the joints will have slid down the machined tapers and you have to do the nuts up to pull the joints into the taper.

I know gus has used the transit drag links with the 3ge mushrooms with no problem, and it seems strange that Saturn would sell TRE's for the roadster that you are saying don't fit.

[AshG]

i have got the rally design rs2000 steering track rod ends on mine they fit the sierra hubs fine.

[spud69]

The EDS kit is the same as we sell only in separates:

1 pair Maxi Ball Joints
1 pair Transit Drag Links - with half nuts
1 pair RS2000 Track Road Ends

Only call them RS2000 TRE since Rally Designs sell them as this and we all get them from the same place just a bit cheaper for bulk buying. Have used these on cars and been selling them for over a year now and they have always been fine and as recommended in the manual. There has been a few threads created to read on the Locost site about the track rod ends available.

For the transit drag link don't forget to put in a secondary locking device through the upright and mushroom adaptor, ie drilled and tapped 6mm hole with a bolt through. The hole in the bottom upright needs to be reamed out to accept the maxi ball joint to show enough thread for the locking nut, careful not to go too far. The track rod end will pull up tight into the taper with the rubber housing moving down the taper to suit.

All the Best....AndyH

[davedew]

The EDS pack might mention locost, westfield etc. But the joints they are selling in the pack are correct. The maxi ball joints & transit links are as specified in the Haynes book. The only difference is the MK2 Escort TRE's instead of sierra. Having seen both types the sierra ones are handed and have an offset joint. The Escort ones are identical left to right.

I have bought the EDS pack and all the joints fitted perfectly.

[gaz05]

Thanks for the replies but I'm still not happy. the first pic is the TRE with the rubber removed . The liitle ring around the taper is where the taper is cut on to the shaft. It a definite step and this step is inside the taper hole when the TRE is fitted. This means it's not sitting on the taper correctly.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q135/gaz58/DSC03953.jpg

Even when in the taper and remember this is without a nut on, it has very little movement. Again don't forget that there is no boot on.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q135/gaz58/DSC03954.jpg


Similarly the drag link without the boot shows how close it is to the top of the mushroom and why I can't ream out the mushroom any more. Again it has no nut on so will be even closer when done up.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q135/gaz58/DSC03955.jpg

Without the boot on it has little enough movement. With it on it'll have next to none.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q135/gaz58/DSC03956.jpg

[gaz05]

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q135/gaz58/DSC03957.jpg


It's possible I may be able to use these drag links but it will mean turning down the top to allow more movement and turning out the inside to allow a full nut on the thread. The TREs will not be fitted. I'll have to work something else out. Is it possible with these being from a diesel that they're different?

[MikeB]

Think that was the problem I had with my tre the first time round. The taper wasn't right. Maybe its an age thing with theuprights. Sierra tre should be good. Not sure about the drasg links, keep us posted.

[MikeB]

Think that was the problem I had with my tre the first time round. The taper wasn't right. Maybe its an age thing with theuprights. Sierra tre should be good. Not sure about the drasg links, keep us posted.

[MikeB]

Think that was the problem I had with my tre the first time round. The taper wasn't right. Maybe its an age thing with theuprights. Sierra tre should be good. Not sure about the drasg links, keep us posted.

[baz-r]

i had two diffrent makes of draglink one fitted 3ge mushrooms onne had the a shorter thread!

as for sierra TRE's thay have off set and are handed not sure about the tapper
when i was at the motorfactors (good friends and have used for years) thay told me QH are the only people that still have both the drag links and the maxi joints in thair stock lists

[gaz05]

I guessed that was the case with the draglinks. Trouble is I spent £50 on these and don't want to waste them. I'll probably rework the mushrooms to fit. As for the Sierra TREs do you know which side I need to order to get the RH threads.

[Big Vern]

It really irritate3s me when they describe RS2000 track rod ends. There is no difference between a 1100L TRE and a RS2000 TRE. As far as I know, all metric TRE's will fit ie. Escort, Cortina, Sierra's all the same tapers, threads etc

As TT says Escort ones don't fit the sierra uprights! They have the same taper but are too short and you won't have the correct angle of movement which you only find out when they break!!
RS2000 Tre's ARE different as some escort racks/struts were imperial and later one's were metric. RS2000 Tre's were a metric/imperial hybrid.

It really irritates me when people post what they think they know rather than factual information. Costs people a lot of time money and frustration to discover this...

BV.

[gaz05]

I missed this. If RS2000 TREs fit the Sierra uprights then why don't mine? Is it possible EDS haven't sent RS TREs but standard escort ones. I spoke to the lad in my local Ford dealer recently and he says there is no difference between petrol and diesel uprights so that's not the problem.