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HandyAndy
22nd December 2010, 11:12 AM
My chassis kits have always been competitively priced & with the increase in VAT soon I,ve purchased 1000mtrs :eek: of steel at pre VAT increase price so that I can maintain the current price of my kits.
The steel is "on call" at 24hrs notice ( or 72hrs if a weekend gets in the way ), once I have used my current stock of steel I will then keep a close eye on the Steel Market & try my best to keep the current price of the kits ongoing.
The kits include ALL the box section steel required to build the main frame of the chassis, including the transmission tunnel frame, a choice of the TYPE 9 or MT75 fitment,
A choice of rear tub layout to accept either the "Book Spec" ali tub frame or the framework to accept a GRP rear tub available from Saturn Sports Cars.
The front frame is supplied fully welded which saves the builder the need of making a front frame jig.
ALL the angles are cut ( including all compound angles ) & each end of the tubes have the cut angle identified & the "Part number" identified in the middle of the tube which makes for easy orientation of the part when constructing the kit with the aid of the "book" plans.
Also included in the kit is "Spare Steel" in each box section dimensions cut to the longest length used within the chassis so that if a builder makes a mistake ( said respectfully ) when constructing the kit they have enough spare steel to Re make the part.
If a builder runs out of spare steel (for the above reason) then they can contact me & I will supply the offending part fully cut to correct dimensions for just the cost of postage of that part.
If a part is supplied incorrect (unlikely, but I,m only human :o ) then I will resupply the part Free of charge & free postage.
The Flat Pack Chassis Kit price is £230+ £35 postage.
contact info.......andyroadster@yahoo.co.uk
cheers
andy
monsterob
22nd December 2010, 11:52 AM
Its nice to know that alot of suppliers have taken steps to avoid the compulsary increase in vat. One of the governments great ideas which hits those with lower earnings more.
spud69
22nd December 2010, 12:49 PM
Well done Andy, very good move - how many chassis packs will that make? sure you will know down to the decimal place.
We're holding off VAT registration as long as possible at Saturn so no VAT to pay for customers yet but when it does come it shouldn't be too bad as we can offset most of it as we can remove VAT paid on our suppliers its just the labour element that would accrue VAT.
Keep it Up.....AndyH
Davey
22nd December 2010, 01:36 PM
Well done Andy, very good move - how many chassis packs will that make? sure you will know down to the decimal place.
We're holding off VAT registration as long as possible at Saturn so no VAT to pay for customers yet but when it does come it shouldn't be too bad as we can offset most of it as we can remove VAT paid on our suppliers its just the labour element that would accrue VAT.
Keep it Up.....AndyH
Andy, don't get caught out like I nearly did with VAT registration. It runs on a rolling 12 month turnover not your financial year's turnover which is what I had thought till my accountant put me right. VAT registration is not difficult if you have a good accountant and if you use Sage for your accounts it does all the calculations for you, its just signing the cheques that hurts;) . You will also have to include VAT on the items you sell.
Hope you don't think I'm trying to teach me granny to suck eggs, D.
Airhead
22nd December 2010, 01:38 PM
Nice thought there Andy :)
People shouldn't be too worried about the VAT increase though; in real terms at £250 you'll only be charging an extra £6.25... Barely enough for two pints these days is it?
Matt
monsterob
22nd December 2010, 02:29 PM
Its not that bad when you say £6.25 per £250 extra .still means £300 all in on something priced at £250 then delivery calculate how much vat you pay a year just living add the fact its the bankers fault WE all have to pay because they messed it all up doesnt seem all that fair. And then they get a nice bonus or announce huge profits
System stinks if you ask me !!
scrooge
And £7 buys 8 pints if you got the supermarket
spud69
22nd December 2010, 02:59 PM
Andy, don't get caught out like I nearly did with VAT registration. It runs on a rolling 12 month turnover not your financial year's turnover which is what I had thought till my accountant put me right. VAT registration is not difficult if you have a good accountant and if you use Sage for your accounts it does all the calculations for you, its just signing the cheques that hurts;) . You will also have to include VAT on the items you sell.
Hope you don't think I'm trying to teach me granny to suck eggs, D.
No problem at all, thanks Davey. We started off slow and increasing every month so i would guestimate that June / July we'll have hit the target. The only daunting thing is the extra paperwork and the 3 monthly deadline plus the VAT man can be much more brutal than tax man.
Don't want to hijack andy's thread but the NI contributions get me wound up more. They never used to be so bad but my last few years in employment, 7 years ago, i was on a good wage and paying a fortune in NI so that and tax it was hardly worth it.
All the Breast Andy......AndyH
HandyAndy
22nd December 2010, 04:29 PM
Cheers guys :)
Just trying to ensure that by buying the steel prior to the VAT increase I can carry on supplying the kits at the current price, & on the plus side its nice to have the stock of steel "on hand" at a days notice or there abouts without having to wait too long for it etc.
I agree that the increase in VAT would only add a couple of £,s but it all helps.
Spud........That quantity of steel should safely cover the next 20 kits :eek: :D...... as I supply spare steel in the kits I like to allow 50mtrs per kit...........I,ll have to weigh in all the offcuts & buy a round of doughnuts at Stoneleigh for everyone :D
cheers
andy
AshG
22nd December 2010, 04:49 PM
Its not that bad when you say £6.25 per £250 extra .still means £300 all in on something priced at £250 then delivery calculate how much vat you pay a year just living add the fact its the bankers fault WE all have to pay because they messed it all up doesnt seem all that fair. And then they get a nice bonus or announce huge profits
System stinks if you ask me !!
scrooge
And £7 buys 8 pints if you got the supermarket
thats the problem with this country, all the iddiots saying its only another £6.50. how many more only £6.50's will it take before people realise we are getting taken up the backside by our own government. The saying "ITS ONLY" is what got us in the mess we are in at the moment, its not only £6.50! IT IS £6.50!!!. £6.50 is 5 meals for someone on a low income!!
i frequent america and sales tax isnt displayed on the item price on the shelf it is calculated at the till. i asked an american why dont they do it like us and the reply was "we want to know exactly what we are being taxed and by who". they have local and state taxes on items (roughly 12-13% in total). and trust me if they try to raise taxes in america people dont just bend over and take it, they ask why and expect proof, not just because so and so politician said it should be raised.
i can see what happened in Ireland happening here. Ireland hiked up its vat a few years back so everyone went out of their way to avoid paying it. they are now bust borrowing to stay afloat as their government has no money to spend on all the do-gooders and beggars
Andy well done for being on the ball and for saving people a few pounds to be used for something else
Davey
22nd December 2010, 05:00 PM
Probably not a popular viewpoint but I didn't hear anyone complaining when VAT was reduced to 15% a year or so ago and we were told quite plainly that a later rise to 20% was a likely consequence.
As the politician said "we're all in it together" its just some of us are in "it" a bit deeper than him.
D.
K4KEV
22nd December 2010, 05:02 PM
Well said Ash .......in this country, with a suicidal economy/coalition..... penny pinching IS the way forward...GGGrrrrrrrr where's me effin soapbox:mad: :mad: :mad:
flyerncle
22nd December 2010, 07:21 PM
Blame the political (w)bankers who let the bankers get away with it in the first place because they fill the coffers of the wbankers.
monsterob
22nd December 2010, 10:17 PM
When the vat was reduced to 15% i got a 10% pay decrease and had to bank 400 hours which im still paying back. that drop of 2.5% then and the 2.5% increase now helps me immensly.
But i still have a job. Seems thats the only thing i can be thankfull of.
Airhead
22nd December 2010, 11:17 PM
AshG - I do not appreciate being called an idiot for having an opinion. Another opinion of mine is that the county is in the state it is because there are people who are happy to put other folks down to big themselves up.
It is only £6.50, get over it.
les g
22nd December 2010, 11:18 PM
I,m sorry but i must add my bit
my stepson is a banker in an international bank
address...... Mayfair london..
do they deserve the money.....DO THEY F..K
he jets around the world etc etc etc moans about the the long hours etc etc
and this year moaned that his bonus was not very good......:rolleyes:
if you can guess how much of his Oxford education fees he has repaid his
mum and me i,ll paypal it to you in in the next 24 hrs
he but i,m not bitter :o
shame he,s snowed in :D
cheers les g
les g
22nd December 2010, 11:22 PM
AshG - I do not appreciate being called an idiot for having an opinion. Another opinion of mine is that the county is in the state it is because there are people who are happy to put other folks down to big themselves up.
It is only £6.50, get over it.
i could not agree more
moderators should make posts calling people stupid
cheers les g
fabbyglass
22nd December 2010, 11:29 PM
Happy easter......:rolleyes:
les g
22nd December 2010, 11:38 PM
Happy easter......:rolleyes:
did i mention i,m off on me holidays in March :D
cheers les g
fabbyglass
22nd December 2010, 11:46 PM
You are on holiday more than you work so is work your holiday and holiday some weird work thing?...or am i just confused......roll on the summer i hate xmas!;)
Airhead
23rd December 2010, 07:40 AM
definitely abusive
calling for a moderator to eliminate Ash g
cant be having this type of thing on the forum
after all its an open forum and PG rated :p
cheers les g
Dude that sarcasm is totally unnecassary, would you like it if I popped up there and starting calling you stupid because your opinion differs from mine?
I know it was said tongue in cheek etc and I am trying to have a sense of humor but it is getting harder; perhaps its my mid life crisis OMG!
Appologies if my flippant acceptance of the state of the economy caused any offence to those of you who only have £6.50 to buy a weeks meals; one question though - I know they are Locost but how the hell can you afford to build a sports car? Priorities.
ozzy1
23rd December 2010, 10:28 AM
What i dont understand is with a population of approx 50 million why vat in the uk is 20% when here in Oz with a population of 20 million and Gst(vat) is 10% :eek: and we feel ripped off :eek:
fabbyglass
23rd December 2010, 10:52 AM
What i dont understand is with a population of approx 50 million why vat in the uk is 20% when here in Oz with a population of 20 million and Gst(vat) is 10% :eek: and we feel ripped off :eek:
Petrol is a nutty £1.25 a ltr in most places and with 20% vat looming it just gives us something else to whinge yet do nowt about....we roll over every time and let the powers that be take us from behind....It's a British thing don't yer know...........:D :D
HandyAndy
23rd December 2010, 02:17 PM
:eek: crikey....I didn,t mean to set off a heated debate on the woes of the economic climate, was just trying to keep my chassis kits at the same price before the VAT increase:)
Tho I do understand that everyone has their own opinions on the way the country is run, its quite a hot topic.....
BUT
back to the original post of this thread.........
Since creating the thread yesterday it has proven quite popular as folk are obviously aware of the costs etc as I,ve received 3 confirmed orders so its nice to know that folk like the idea of pre vat increase bulk buy of my steel stock & trying to help builders "Build a Roadster on a budget".
cheers
andy
alga
23rd December 2010, 02:40 PM
What i dont understand is with a population of approx 50 million why vat in the uk is 20% when here in Oz with a population of 20 million and Gst(vat) is 10% :eek: and we feel ripped off :eek:
The EU regulates the VAT rate. The regulated minimum is 15%, but most countries have it around 20%, give or take[1]. The brits had the best rate in the whole EU after Gibraltar, Canaries, Azores, Cyprus and Luxembourg.
Now, the reason for regulating VAT is that a lower VAT rate in one country *cough* *cough* would put it at a competitive advantage against neighbours due to a livelier economy and more export. And forcing the neighbours to reduce the VAT race would be bad as their budgets would suffer :confused:
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EU_VAT#VAT_rates
AshG
23rd December 2010, 06:54 PM
AshG - I do not appreciate being called an idiot for having an opinion. Another opinion of mine is that the county is in the state it is because there are people who are happy to put other folks down to big themselves up.
It is only £6.50, get over it.
sorry airhead i was generalising, my comment wasn't directly aimed at you. you cant possibly be an idiot your building a roadster
how votes i should beat myself with the pole of moderation :D
monsterob
23rd December 2010, 07:13 PM
Whoops ! Sorry andy my bad i had the moan first !
les g
23rd December 2010, 08:28 PM
sorry airhead i was generalising, my comment wasn't directly aimed at you. you cant possibly be an idiot your building a roadster
how votes i should beat myself with the pole of moderation :D
you should send all of us a card saying i,m very sorry....
and enclose a £20 note as compensation .LOL
cheers les g
have a good one
fabbyglass
23rd December 2010, 08:36 PM
you should send all of us a card saying i,m very sorry....
and enclose a £20 note as compensation .LOL
cheers les g
have a good one
And Les has kindly said he would take us all on holiday next year because he won the lottery:cool:
AshG
23rd December 2010, 08:41 PM
sorry les i can send you a card without money but there is a fee to receive it. but don't worry its ONLY going to cost you £6.50 out of your holiday fund.
HandyAndy
23rd December 2010, 08:45 PM
:p .....Well, it certainly got this thread viewed alot :) :D
hey Fabby / Les..... I actually had a pint of Guinness last night , there,s a first time for everything & its the season of goodwill to all..HIC....Les, where you taking me on holiday then? :D
cheers
andy
les g
23rd December 2010, 09:02 PM
well i never
Ash you are so mean lol
Fabby holidays just have to be done at least twice a year :p
and i,ll give you a clue its not the lottery Lins earns double what i do
Handyandy their is only one place to go in my opinion.....
jump on a plane and head West South West to that group of islands and continent that you used to cruise around.....best part of the world for
Rum and Tequila as you may well remember :cool:
cheers les g
fabbyglass
23rd December 2010, 09:06 PM
Les, How big is your suit case, any room for a short 'un to hide:D
HandyAndy
23rd December 2010, 09:10 PM
Handyandy their is only one place to go in my opinion.....
jump on a plane and head West South West to that group of islands and continent that you used to cruise around.....best part of the world for
Rum and Tequila as you may well remember :cool:
cheers les g
Ahh...those were the days :cool:
My favourite place was St Kitts, tho had a ball in Antiga & Aruba .....don,t remember much tho, that rum & Tequila was soooooo free flowing :eek: hic..
But then again, I was sooooo young back then, ahhhhh swing that lamp:D
cheers
andy
fabbyglass
23rd December 2010, 09:34 PM
Blimey the sound of old men trying to remember what day it is....:eek: oh by the way what day is it?........:o
Airhead
23rd December 2010, 11:21 PM
sorry airhead i was generalising, my comment wasn't directly aimed at you. you cant possibly be an idiot your building a roadster
how votes i should beat myself with the pole of moderation :D
Thanks Ash - we are all cool :)
Matt
shaun
29th December 2010, 06:46 PM
Thought I would just say, Handy Andy's flat pack kits are A1. I have just started putting mine together and everything is perfect, the angles are bang on and the lengths are perfect. Thanks Andy.... stand by for some stupid questions :)
AshG
29th December 2010, 07:04 PM
Thought I would just say, Handy Andy's flat pack kits are A1. I have just started putting mine together and everything is perfect, the angles are bang on and the lengths are perfect. Thanks Andy.... stand by for some stupid questions :)
cast an eye over one at stoneleigh 2010 and have to agree that they are top notch.
HandyAndy
30th December 2010, 08:38 AM
Thought I would just say, Handy Andy's flat pack kits are A1. I have just started putting mine together and everything is perfect, the angles are bang on and the lengths are perfect. Thanks Andy.... stand by for some stupid questions
Thanks for your kind words Shaun, glad to hear you are enjoying putting the kit together :)
No question is stupid if you are not sure of the answer, just ask away :cool:
Ash....Thanks too, the kits on display at Stoneliegh certainly created a great deal of interest. I think next year I,ll have to have a few kits available for folk to purchase on the day :) , not sure how many I can fit into my Roadster tho :D
cheers
andy
HandyAndy
6th January 2011, 08:25 PM
As the economy seems to be in a bit of turmoil lately, & the purse strings are under pressure from all angles..........I,ve come up with a plan to help prospective Roadster builders spread the cost of purchasing a Flat Pack Chassis kit from me, after all, the title of the book is "Build a Sports Car on a Budget"
So hopefully this will help........
I will supply the Chassis Kit in 3 stages ( intention being to purchase 1 stage per month etc etc, might help keep the wife/partner happy ;) )
Stage 1 includes
Fully welded Front Frame
U1 to U8
BR1 to BR12
Spare Steel ( 2 sizes of boxed tube used in chassis & spare round tube if ordering the Ali rear tub frame spec kit ).
Also a few small lengths of "Scrap Steel" to practise on / set up the welding equipment.
Stage 2 includes
TR1 to TR9
SB1 to SB6
D1 to D13
SW1 to SW3
Stage 3 includes
RS1 to RS15
TT1 to TT12
RP1 to RP3 or
GRP1 to GRP2 dependant on choice of rear tub required.
This then allows the builder to make progress at each stage.
The cost of each stage is £80 plus £15 postage.
Admittedly, the cost over the 3 stages is £20 more than purchasing the full kit in 1 go, this is due to the cost of postage as the Carriers have a minimum charge per consignment but I feel the slight increase in cost is acceptable given that its spreading the cost of purchasing the kit over a period of months which makes it easier on the monthly household budget etc.
Chassis Kits can still be purchased as a full kit, the above just gives a builder the option.
Any questions/requests for info my email contact details are in my signature below VVVV.
cheers
andy
ChrisJ
22nd January 2011, 10:09 PM
Ordered my first stage today from the above offer.
Just wanted to thank Andy for giving builders like myself the opportunity to get started without having the outlay of the full package cost, It would of been a good few months before i could have purchased the full kit so this opportunity means i can get started and then next month, or sooner funds permitting order the next stage and so on.
To any would be builders thinking about this offer, i couldn't recommend it more, Andy is a fantastic guy and the support and advice already offered by himself and this forum is second to non.
Keep up the good work guys :)
Chris
dogwood
23rd January 2011, 08:20 AM
Brillllll idea Andy mate...:cool:
As per usual, you're the man.
David
HandyAndy
23rd January 2011, 08:46 AM
Thanks for your kind words Chris, you,ll soon be unwrapping the stage 1 kit & getting stuck into your build, :cool:
David :o , aww shucks :) I just thought it allows a builder to have the option to actually make a start on their build knowing that each stage will follow when the time is right for them .
many thanks for the thumbs up :)
cheers
andy
fatbungy
25th January 2011, 10:24 PM
Just thought i'd mention that my Handy Andy flat pack kit arrived today. Ive already got it laid out on the build table and it looks tip top with everything present and correct (as expected).
I can't believe how well its labeled up, even the angles on the ends of the tubes are marked up. Hopefully this means it will be idiot proof, well i'll see about that anyway ,:)
Almost seems a shame to let my dodgy welding anywhere near it:o
Bonzo
26th January 2011, 09:23 AM
Almost seems a shame to let my dodgy welding anywhere near it:o
If you get really stuck on the welding side of things & fancy a visit to Penzance, I would be happy to spend a few hours giving you some basic MIG welding tuition :)
Quite happy to offer welding assistance to any forum member who is local or willing to travel ;)
spud69
26th January 2011, 10:41 AM
If you get really stuck on the welding side of things & fancy a visit to Penzance, I would be happy to spend a few hours giving you some basic MIG welding tuition :)
Quite happy to offer welding assistance to any forum member who is local or willing to travel ;)
Everyone is just too nice on here. But ain't it good......:cool:
Makes everyone's graft worthwhile.....Andrew
fabbyglass
26th January 2011, 11:03 AM
Everyone is just too nice on here. But ain't it good......:cool:
Makes everyone's graft worthwhile.....Andrew
It's a bit scary, next there will be cyber group hugs......:rolleyes:
Bonzo
26th January 2011, 11:16 AM
It's a bit scary, next there will be cyber group hugs......:rolleyes:
Nothing wrong with a big fat hairy, man hug Mark:D
Just a shame I live so far West of most folk .... If I hadn't had help & moral support from some of the memberers of this forum, my build would have been abandoned many moons ago ;)
fabbyglass
26th January 2011, 11:57 AM
Nothing wrong with a big fat hairy, man hug Mark:D
Just a shame I live so far West of most folk .... If I hadn't had help & moral support from some of the memberers of this forum, my build would have been abandoned many moons ago ;)
I too have had some much needed help from a member of this forum but can assure you he would be the last bloke you would want to hug...his arms are bigger than my legs so a hug from the "big fella" would certainly mean a trip to A&E
Bonzo
26th January 2011, 04:10 PM
Tell you what Mark, I would rather have a hug from the big fella than come face to face with him on the rugby pitch :eek: :eek:
Think I would be beyond the help of A&E :D
Sorry for the thread highjack Andy mate :o
HandyAndy
26th January 2011, 07:49 PM
Just thought i'd mention that my Handy Andy flat pack kit arrived today. Ive already got it laid out on the build table and it looks tip top with everything present and correct (as expected).
I can't believe how well its labeled up, even the angles on the ends of the tubes are marked up. Hopefully this means it will be idiot proof, well i'll see about that anyway ,
Almost seems a shame to let my dodgy welding anywhere near it
Sorry for slow reply, I,ve been away from my laptop all day, & i mean ALLLLL day, was up at 4am, just got home now
Thanks for your kind words Fatbungy ( I must ask where that name came from :D ) & I hope you enjoy building the kit as much as I enjoy cutting them:cool:
Any questions.....the forum is your "friend"
Enjoy your build & when you get chance post up a couple of photos of your progress.
And as for the big hairy hugs :eek: Can you imagine the looks on folks faces if we all performed a huge forum hug at stoneleigh :D
But, you,re spot on....its a great community on here.
cheers
andy
dogwood
27th January 2011, 09:46 AM
Oh no...time for another group hug....:o
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p212/muddypaws4x4/Hug-1.gif
Bonzo
27th January 2011, 10:02 AM
Nearly died laughing David :D
The thing is .... When that picture was taken .... I was sitting on the sheeps head before the pig sat on us all :eek: :D :D
fabbyglass
27th January 2011, 10:02 AM
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo blokes hugging is just so wrong:D
fatbungy
27th January 2011, 07:55 PM
If you get really stuck on the welding side of things & fancy a visit to Penzance, I would be happy to spend a few hours giving you some basic MIG welding tuition :)
Quite happy to offer welding assistance to any forum member who is local or willing to travel ;)
Thanks for the offer Ronnie it's much appreciated but i've managed to pursuade a couple of the engineers at work to give me a few pointers.
however if that dosen't work you might see me in Penzance soon.:)
Cheers Steve
Bonzo
27th January 2011, 08:14 PM
You are most welcome Steve.
That is an open ended offer, if you get stuck at any point, give us a holler mate :) :)
Aussie_Haynes_MX5
29th January 2011, 08:37 AM
Do you ship to Australia?
HandyAndy
29th January 2011, 08:47 AM
Do you ship to Australia?
Hi Ben,
Welcome to the forum, :)
You seem to be doing some great research on your proposed build, :cool:
Yes, I can ship to Australia, not sure of shipping costs ( can get a confirmed costing for you on monday ).
Saturn Sports Cars are currently developing the chassis to accept the MX 5 running gear, & the flat pack chassis kits will be available to accept the MX5 as its donor.
cheers
andy
Talonmotorsport
29th January 2011, 08:51 AM
I've had a few enquiries from Oz and Fedex is the only company that will touch it £240 was there best price.
HandyAndy
29th January 2011, 09:22 AM
I've had a few enquiries from Oz and Fedex is the only company that will touch it £240 was there best price.
Thanks for your input,
fabbyglass
29th January 2011, 10:36 AM
That seems mad to me, it will cost you more to have a few bits of tube shipped in than it would to have someone near you in Oz cut it...surely easier all round and cheaper if supplied drawings? :confused:
Talonmotorsport
29th January 2011, 10:47 AM
That seems mad to me, it will cost you more to have a few bits of tube shipped in than it would to have someone near you in Oz cut it...surely easier all round and cheaper if supplied drawings? :confused:
What like in a hard back book from Haynes, mmm now theres an idea?
fabbyglass
29th January 2011, 10:52 AM
What like in a hard back book from Haynes, mmm now theres an idea?
Novel idea........:D
Aussie_Haynes_MX5
29th January 2011, 11:08 AM
Yes i could, but it would cost quite a bit more than getting a whole flat pack shipped. More the laziness of me. I've got the material, but it's the room and the time which are the limiting factor. I will have to do it at work where all the tools are, but have to do it after hours and then have to make sure that it's been moved out of the workshop by the morning and hidden so the bosses can't see it.
fabbyglass
29th January 2011, 11:20 AM
Yes i could, but it would cost quite a bit more than getting a whole flat pack shipped. More the laziness of me. I've got the material, but it's the room and the time which are the limiting factor. I will have to do it at work where all the tools are, but have to do it after hours and then have to make sure that it's been moved out of the workshop by the morning and hidden so the bosses can't see it.
Cool I had to do that when I first started......but then they turned up at my workshop because donkey here must have left something laying around on my bench at work...thing is I chucked a sicky but actually went to my workshop:D
ozzy1
29th January 2011, 12:45 PM
Aussie haynes,
Most of the chassis is easy to cut and would get you started.The harder parts are the compound angles on a few of the tubes so you could do these ones at work maybe?They tend to make more sense as you cut them when you need them and offer them up to the chassis.
If you are going to go the the flat pack route i would also buy the fibreglass at the same time and get it all shipped together.Just bear in mind you will have to pay import duty of 5% on the cost of the goods including shipping costs and also 10% Gst.
Aussie_Haynes_MX5
3rd February 2011, 10:49 AM
Aussie haynes,
Most of the chassis is easy to cut and would get you started.The harder parts are the compound angles on a few of the tubes so you could do these ones at work maybe?They tend to make more sense as you cut them when you need them and offer them up to the chassis.
If you are going to go the the flat pack route i would also buy the fibreglass at the same time and get it all shipped together.Just bear in mind you will have to pay import duty of 5% on the cost of the goods including shipping costs and also 10% Gst.
Probably not going to go the flat pack route at the moment. Looks like work is going to give me a bit of extra time in the evenings to start of cutting and making the frame. I'll tough it out and make mistakes, and cut more than two lots of metal . . . . . . .
HandyAndy
3rd February 2011, 08:55 PM
Probably not going to go the flat pack route at the moment. Looks like work is going to give me a bit of extra time in the evenings to start of cutting and making the frame. I'll tough it out and make mistakes, and cut more than two lots of metal . . . . . . .
Sounds like you have a great employer :)
The cost of shipping a full chassis kit is quite high, if its just the kit alone.......but if you decide to order any parts from the Uk then I supply the "Compound Mitre Cut Packs", might save a bit of time for you ........
just a thought :) might save "cutting more than two lots of metal" :)
Best wishes for your build, keep us all posted with your progress, photos, photos we all like photos :cool:
cheers
andy
brainbug007
3rd February 2011, 09:01 PM
I took the diy route myself having zero previous metal working experience and have only had to re-cut 3 bits so far. I can imagine getting the flatpack would save you alot of time but personally had I wanted to save a bit of cash where I could and managed to get all the steel tube plus a big sheet of 3mm plate for just under 200 quid delivered :)
alga
3rd February 2011, 10:29 PM
I'll tough it out and make mistakes, and cut more than two lots of metal . . . . . . .
Rest assured it will not come to that! An extra 6m length at most. Otherwise all of the wrongly cut tubes get used up a bit further down the line. The last major area fabricated out of 25 mm tubes is the rear suspension cage, and it is made up out of 15 or so tubes 20, 30, and 40 cm long. Eats up all the offcuts you have left. I used all the shorter ones for practicing my welding and letting friends have a go with the welder.
michael92
19th March 2011, 06:54 PM
im saving my pocket money for this!:p is there any more left?
HandyAndy
19th March 2011, 07:18 PM
im saving my pocket money for this!:p is there any more left?
Hi Michael,
Not sure which kit you mean?
but
Each kit , either full chassis kit or Staged kit is made to order, so if you need any more info just get in touch .....when you,ve saved up your "pocket money" :p :D
cheers
andy
michael92
20th March 2011, 09:11 AM
the full chassis kit ? is that everything-bar wishbone setup?
cheers
Michael
HandyAndy
20th March 2011, 10:40 AM
the full chassis kit ? is that everything-bar wishbone setup?
cheers
Michael
The full chassis kit contains all the box tube to make the main frame of the chassis, including the tranny tunnel & also includes the choice of rear tub framework depending on which tub a builder intends to fit ( GRP or ALI ).
The kits don,t include the CP plates, wishbone/suspension brackets or any of the steel work to make the rear uprights or any wishbones.
Basically, the kit allows the builder to make up the main frame of the chassis & includes a fully welded front frame which saves the need to make a jig for it.
Tho if you are looking for a "kit Stage/package" then Saturn sports Cars offer various levels of kits that can include things such as the CP plates / uprights / wishbones & even full kits to include everything apart from the parts required from the donor car, have a look at their stores page on www.saturnsportscars.co.uk
I supply the chassis flat packs to Saturn for any of their staged kits.
Any questions just shout, happy to help in any way I can.
cheers
andy
michael92
20th March 2011, 10:49 AM
that sounds ideal! cheers for that info! how much do you charge for the basic chassis kit ? :)
michael
HandyAndy
20th March 2011, 11:08 AM
that sounds ideal! cheers for that info! how much do you charge for the basic chassis kit ? :)
michael
Hi,
I have my kits on my Ebay listing at £220 but am happy to supply a forum member the kit for £200 plus the delivery charge ( I only charge what the courier charges me ).
All I need to know is which rear tub frame & which tranny tunnel fitment is required.
cheers
andy
michael92
2nd April 2011, 07:51 PM
collected my chassis pack today and met Andy, excellent quality! and what a genuine guy! had a cheeky look at his roadster too and a little drive out :p ;)
gave me plenty of advice and even a cuppa too! :p
Cheers Andy!
Bonzo
2nd April 2011, 07:57 PM
Now that's what I call a day out :)
Green with envy that you have had a ride in the Roadster :o :D
Have a great time building your Roadster :cool:
michael92
2nd April 2011, 08:15 PM
haha! yeah and the roadster was well.... very good
i shall :) layed all the sections out in order on my garage floor :P
waiting for a build table,
then its go! go! go!
BORNXenon
10th August 2011, 02:11 PM
Andy, are you doing the MX-5 based flat packs too? :)
HandyAndy
10th August 2011, 03:04 PM
Andy, are you doing the MX-5 based flat packs too? :)
Hi,
I feel that with the great work done by Spud at Saturn it would be wrong of me to offer the Flat Pack chassis kits for the Mx5 donor , especially as Spud has also made the drawings/ plans available to all via the Saturn website, I,ve seen the Saturn MX5 rolling chassis build & indeed it does look very good, Spud has done some great work getting it done.:cool:
I will however still be offering the chassis kits for the Sierra based donor & will always offer any help I can .
cheers
andy
vmax1974
10th August 2011, 03:39 PM
Hey andy long time no see on the forum how are you doing hope everything is ok
HandyAndy
10th August 2011, 04:33 PM
Hey andy long time no see on the forum how are you doing hope everything is ok
Cheers Dave,
Going ok ta, I,ve finished my car ( well i,m sure there,ll be something I find that I,ve missed :eek: )
cheers
andy
vmax1974
10th August 2011, 04:39 PM
Bound to find something lol great its done though have been past a few times on my way to and from work saw your car but not you in the garage would have stopped for a chat if I had
BORNXenon
10th August 2011, 07:04 PM
Hi,
I feel that with the great work done by Spud at Saturn it would be wrong of me to offer the Flat Pack chassis kits for the Mx5 donor , especially as Spud has also made the drawings/ plans available to all via the Saturn website, I,ve seen the Saturn MX5 rolling chassis build & indeed it does look very good, Spud has done some great work getting it done.:cool:
I will however still be offering the chassis kits for the Sierra based donor & will always offer any help I can .
cheers
andy
No worries bud, I have just perused the Saturn website and found both the chassis kits and build guide/amendments and they do indeed look impressive. Looks like I'm going to be spending a fair amount of hard earned with Spud!!
:)
Richard Dryden
11th August 2011, 08:26 AM
Nice to see you back andy hpe all is well with you, good to hear there has been progress on your car, can't be far off test now.
HandyAndy
11th August 2011, 05:16 PM
BornXenon.....
The Saturn website is indeed very easy to get around & the beauty of it is you can purchase as much or as little as you wish in a time frame to suit your own build / budget,
Best wishes for your upcoming build :), we like pictures so post up any build progress & enjoy the build .
Richard......
Thanks mate , life is starting to come back to a sense of normality:eek: at last,
Yes my car is all but done now , in actual fact I,ve been adding bits to it that i,d intended doing after the test, so all being well I,ll stop tinkering with it & just get it tested ( at last :o ).
Hows your build coming along ?
cheers
andy
baz-r
13th August 2011, 02:31 PM
good to see you back andy :)
HandyAndy
14th August 2011, 07:38 PM
good to see you back andy :)
Thanks Baz, its good to be here :)
cheers
andy
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