VW/AUDI engines

[js1uk]

Hi everybody,
I have been looking at different engines for my car & have seen
alot of the 1.8 turbos going on fleabay for not alot of money.
I was wondering what gearboxes could be used with those.
I would suspect alot of the engine parts would be coded to the car it came off.
Has anybody used 1 ?????

Good building..

[fabbyglass]

Bike engine, loads easier loads lighter and makes a better brand of noise :cool:

[twinturbo]

You won't find an inline box from the VW stable.

TT

[Talonmotorsport]

If you can make an adaptor ring or cut and shut an ali or steel bell housing you should be able to mate any gear box to any engine. Don't forget that you don't have to use a ford gear box there are other rear wheel drive cars out there. BMW Mazda Vauxhall Nissan ect.

[fabbyglass]

Alphax kit cars of holland do a conversion for vag motors to ford gearbox...good folk too.:)

[js1uk]

I will look in to making a adaptor plate, I have the mt75 gearbox already.
Very quick answers, thanks........

[alga]

I suspect the cost of mating the box to the engine will negate the price benefit of the engine itself.

[fabbyglass]

I suspect the cost of mating the box to the engine will negate the price benefit of the engine itself.

All the more reason to fit a bike engine as it has it's own neat gearbox and will make most car engined 7's look stupid away from the staging lights....ooops I meant trafffic lights:rolleyes:

[CaptainCrash1971]

Yeah, if my Pinto should mysteriously stop working after IVA I'll be going the bike engined route me thinks.
Fancy a kwacker engine, always had an affinity for Kawasaki bikes and have worked loads on their engines. Got chance of an old ZZR1100 C2 model, low miles for a grand, but don't think I'll get much for the frame and bodywork for such an old model. Plus I don't have a spare grand!!!

[fabbyglass]

kawasaki gets my vote, never been a Honda fan as no matter how quick they are i just see..."superdream"...:D

[js1uk]

But how much torque do they produce?/BHP ? ,Reverse gear & cost?

[fabbyglass]

But how much torque do they produce?/BHP ? ,Reverse gear & cost?

depends what you get but summat like an hayabusa etc has 170ish bhp, reverse is easily done via a bike starter motor running a sprocket mounted on the diff drive flange.......you won't regret it either as the rush is awesome not too mention the noise:cool:

I used the humble Triumph daytona motor and i could pull away in 2nd no dramas, could be driven sensible but when "hooligan mode" kicks in oh deary me what a giggle:cool:

[shh120m]

Regarding bike engines, is there anything in the IVA which says anything about chain drive? I was looking at the diff conversion kits on the westgarage engineering website and its got me thinking about a bike engine. I would love sequential gear changing without having to spend a fortune on a dog box

[les g]

if you find out how to mate a rwd gearbox to a VAG 1.8
please share the knowledge
Alphax doesn,t seem to play any more..
and i have searched hi-n-low for info or a supplier and i cant find one
anywhere...
so it would probably be a DIY job
my daughter has a tuned by (r-tech) A3 and it goes like f###
it is awesome 260bhp and loads more she can have done they reckon the motor will take 300+bhp easy without much money
cheers les g

[flyerncle]

If you fit the engine, use the ecu and key as they are coded together.

It is possible to remove the imobiliser and a friend of mine has the 20v turbo with original ecu fitted to a MK1 Golf cabby.

One thing to watch is the throttle boy as there are two types,one fully electronic and the other earlier one has a cable.

Alpha X were the guys for the kit but as Mark says no longer playing.

[fabbyglass]

Regarding bike engines, is there anything in the IVA which says anything about chain drive? I was looking at the diff conversion kits on the westgarage engineering website and its got me thinking about a bike engine. I would love sequential gear changing without having to spend a fortune on a dog box

In a 7 the motor will be up front so that's a hell of a long chain run...:eek:
I took a gearbox sprocket from the Triumph to a machine shop who then hoofed off the teeth and machined up a noggin of steel with the same bolt pattern as the ford drive shaft UJ...the two were welded. This bolts on as per a normal sprocket then the prop just bolts to this...Don't go making a prop though as bike motors spin quite a bit....:D Bailey Morris etc Reverse is a matter of a wee sprockety thing mated to same sprockety thing on whatever bike starter motor you use, some form of lifty uppy downy or pully inny outty device to engage the gears and bobs yer knobend....then it's wiring it all up so it keeps IVA bods sweet.
You will be surprised how good the reverse is even using summat like an R1 starter motor(thats what i used).

All manner of much quickness can be done, flappy paddles on the steerage down to full throttle gear changes by using elecy bits to cut the ignition just as you snatch another gear....just hang on for dear life:D Oh and might pay to have a slippy diff so you don't waste all that luvvly car engined whooping whoopness.

Just ask anyone with a bike engined car or look at the fizzgog of someone just driven one...........you will be hooked.

[fabbyglass]

Him gear stick gets pulled back a tiny bit just a touch if linkage is done right..so floor it and keep tapping that there gear lever.....watch out for the toads in mobile discos wearing funny hats though as they really don't like folk playing at "I'm a drag racer" away from the traffic lights......:D :D

[vetteman1355]

Checkout this site, it is Caterham built under license here in BC Canada. I have been a couple of times to his shop/factory and on several rides with David, this is an incredible car, but very expensive. They engineered the the chain driven box so you have the same amount of gears forwards and in reverse, the cops did a radar test with him going 113 MPH in reverse on a airport runway.
Oh and by the way watch some of the videos.

Nigel

http://www.super7cars.com/gallery%20hayabusa.html[/URL]

[BlaydonBodger]

I am still pondering how best to make an adapter plate for the MT75 and the Audi 1.8 20v that I have in the garage at the moment. I just came online to look for the MT75 drawing I saw here a while ago and then i was going to have a trawl about for some dimentions for the Audi block.

If anyone has had experience of making an adaptor plate I would be glad to hear how they went about it and of the pit falls to watch out for etc. I was speaking to someone the other day who had been snapping input shafts and it turned out to be a poorly made plate causing the problems.

Has anyone seen any drawings/dimensions for the Audi block anywhere? I suspect they would be a real help.

I will post how I get on with it as and when but given the progress of my build it may be some time.

[flyerncle]

Bodger, I have the spacer plate for the 20 v engine and I am just up the hill from Blaydon.

[Doogle]

Im a masive VAG fan at heart, would love to see this made to work in a roadster. The 20vt can produce some staggering figures if tuned well. A bit pointless in such a light car but a strong engine.
Im sure Iv got a spare T1 bug lump lying around though if thats any good to ya :D

[BlaydonBodger]

Flyer, thats very interesting it might just progress the situation nicely. I can easily meet up, as you say you are just up the hill. Suggest PM to sort something out?

[flyerncle]

I work in Factory Road just over the crossing,pm to sort out out details.

[BlaydonBodger]

Flyer i have just sent you a PM

[flyerncle]

Replied to Mick.

[onedayTM]

HI there,
Practical Performance Car did a conversion to a Westfield with a VW 1.8 TDI engine last year, cannot remember what gearbox they used but if you get mag and email them you should be able to find out.
tony

[BlaydonBodger]

Cheers oneday, i remember reading about it they called it the wiesel or something like that. I think i still have the mags i will dig them out and check.

[loony]

I think this is the Westfield you talking about:
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=247471

Gearbox is a Toyota Supra W58. He used kit from Acme Adapters.

But - there is a light in the tunnel - VW Amarok 4x2 is RWD and is powered by 2.0TDI, so the 6-speed gearbox should be fine for all 1.8T/1.9TDI engines unless it has some stupid electronics or something...
Does anyone know exactly what gearbox is in new VW Amarok and whether it will fit to 1.8T engines ?