N00b question about rear axle

[rincewind23]

Hi all,

I'm kinda getting comfortable now with admitting what I don't know :)

I finally managed to get the rear wishbones finished. I already had the uprights from Talon, protech shocks and a sierra diff/half shafts from eBay. I put them all together today, and the cases for the CV joints on the half shafts don't fit the apertures on the 10mm plates of the uprights. Is there something I'm missing? I've read the book and searched on the forums but I can't find any info about anything that would hold the outer CV joints level. I can kind of wheel the frame in and out of the garage now, but it's obviously not right.

I've never really worked with this sort of backend before (welding/fabrication fine, engine work fine, but the last car I worked on was a mini so that was all front end), so any suggestions appreciated.

Cheers,
KEv.

P.S. I don't mind answering any questions for info I should have provided but haven't...

[Eternal]

Best post some pics. Normaly people spot stuff right away. :D

[flyerncle]

Two bearing carriers bolt to the upright on the outsides to take the wheel bearings and the shafts go through them fitted with the flange.

The bolt holes are offset and will only fit one way.

[rincewind23]

Eternal: Thanks, I thought about doing that just after it got dark..

flyerncle: Sounds right. I will post photos just to make sure. Looking around I've only seen bearing carrier repair kits (the bearings) rather than the bearing carriers themselves. Look forward to your input once I've got some photos..

[Talonmotorsport]

Bearing carriers for drum brakes are basicly rectanglular

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-SIERRA-REAR-HUB-AND-HUB-CARRIER-DRUM-BRAKE-TYPE-/370488654808?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5642d83bd8


and bearing carriers for disk brakes have two lugs.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-SIERRA-REAR-HUB-AND-HUB-CARRIER-DRUM-BRAKE-TYPE-/370488654808?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5642d83bd8

[Eternal]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FORD-SIERRA-REAR-HUB-AND-HUB-CARRIER-DISC-BRAKE-TYPE-/370471694831?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5641d571ef

[gaz05]

Are you missing these? It's a drum brake backplate with the bearing carrier shown in the centre. The four bolts fasten onto the uprights.


http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_M7NYoj9UBSs/TPv1TJr3vxI/AAAAAAAAACU/mS1Kg-FQAZ4/s1600/DSC03940.JPG

[flyerncle]

Gary to the rescue.........;)

Ebay parts are cheap as Talon has posted,new the hubs are £40 ish and flanges £136 or there abouts and still available form Ford.

Be carefull which ones you buy as disc and drum are different and the width of the carriers are also different between bolt on and push in.

[rincewind23]

Thanks to everyone who replied. Looks like I need a pair of disc brake type hub carriers.

This is a steep (but very satisfying) learning curve. Hopefully one day I'll be able to answer some questions as well as asking them!

All the photos I've seen for disc type hub carriers have the wheel flange as well. For disc brakes is it all one piece? I'm guessing that this is the case and the axle I have is from a drum setup and so the flange is separate from the carrier (so the carrier is part of the backplate like in Gaz05's photo)

[flyerncle]

Backplate and carrier are seperate items and adapters are available for disc conversion.

[gaz05]

Yes the backplate and carrier are seperate. What type of upright did you get because the disc and drum ones have the thick outer plate orientated differently.

This is the drum setup that I'll be using. As you can see the backplate will be sandwiched between the carrier and the upright. Then the driveshaft goes through that and the splined flange is slid onto the driveshaft and a nut spun on to hold it all together.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q135/gaz58/DSC04111.jpg

[flyerncle]

There is also two types of shaft,push in and "Lobro" bolt in type.
As it suggests one just pushes into diff and outer hub end and the other bolt togther with the shaft in the center held in with 6 alan/cap screws at either end,as others have said the carriers are different and if not fitted in the right place will let the caliper interfere with shock mount.