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SeriesLandy
4th August 2011, 06:31 PM
I really want to do my build but I have no enthusiasm for it.

Ive got to the steering, its all installed and the extension hits the book engine mounts. I've moved the column bush up as high as possible without it hitting the top rail and it still isn't right. As you can see the extension tube is well off the uj on the steering rack.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6133/6009278764_7224a9c3d1_z.jpg
Can anyone point me in the right direction with what to buy (as much as I don't want to spend money i'm going to have to)

SeriesLandy
4th August 2011, 06:32 PM
The other thing is when it comes to mounting the harnesses. Should I go through the seats or not. Going round the transmission tunnel is fine the other side however leaves no clearance and would still run past the seat.
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flyerncle
4th August 2011, 06:53 PM
I replaced the doughnut with a group 4 escort metal u/j,if you made everything to book spec it should fit although a little close to the brace at the front. The rack should lie flat on the support frame.

tkpm
4th August 2011, 07:59 PM
I have the same problem with the harnesses, so i have put them around the seat for now and when i've had the IVA done, i will run them through the seats again.

Terry

Wynand
4th August 2011, 08:03 PM
I have troubles of my own with alignment of Sierra steering to the Escort 2 rack....:o

However, I could not fail to notice the lower wishbone nut as marked in pic below. The locknut is useless without thread going through it, and good practice learned as an apprentice is to have at least 3 threads protrude through a nut at all times.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/wynand/index.jpg

SeriesLandy
4th August 2011, 08:13 PM
Cheers for pointing that out mate, I bought the wrong size bolts for the job and have longer ones but not fitted them yet. I think the finger tight nylock would also fail IVA.

Here is a pic of the back. I hope there is enough thread for IVA as I couldn't see anything in the manual. Are the washers essential or not as this would give an extra 4mm or so.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6005/6009584658_6bf4a2a557_z.jpg

twinturbo
4th August 2011, 09:30 PM
what is at the top of the tube?

TT

Spikehaus
4th August 2011, 10:00 PM
Have a look at my build diary, there is an easy fix using a rose joint mounted of the engine mount with an additional group 4 coupling and splined shaft. Hope it helps. (This option cost a bit more money but is mechanically correct) If you need any other advise then PM me

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5003/5300414036_f40f067b61_m.jpg

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5081/5360335983_eaecaae670_m.jpg

http://www.flickr.com/photos/56936222@N04/page6/

SeriesLandy
4th August 2011, 10:08 PM
what is at the top of the tube?

TT
The other half of the sierra steering extension, the uj that clamps on the the triangular part of the column.

robo
4th August 2011, 11:28 PM
I really want to do my build but I have no enthusiasm for it.

Ive got to the steering, its all installed and the extension hits the book engine mounts. I've moved the column bush up as high as possible without it hitting the top rail and it still isn't right. As you can see the extension tube is well off the uj on the steering rack.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6133/6009278764_7224a9c3d1_z.jpg
Can anyone point me in the right direction with what to buy (as much as I don't want to spend money i'm going to have to)

I have seen your build steve and you are on the down hill run now so just dig deep and bash on.

Bob

twinturbo
5th August 2011, 07:33 AM
I would lower the engine mount, mine clears fine on the CVH.

TT

robo
5th August 2011, 09:08 AM
Steve, just a thought, you havent used a big fat rubber engine mount that has lifted up the engine have you??? it would not take much of a lift that far back to raise the shaft at the front.

Bob

SeriesLandy
5th August 2011, 09:21 AM
TT I think making a new engine mount would be the cheapest solution.

No its all standard, as per the book. Did chris change things in it but forget to actually mention what was done? I can't seem to find a decent photo in the book how the steering column is made.

twinturbo
5th August 2011, 09:50 AM
Modding an engine mount to clear a steering shaft is preferable to modding a steering shaft to clear an engine mount. The less complicated the steering system the better.

TT

SeriesLandy
5th August 2011, 10:53 AM
would save having an extra load of uj's in the system. Would 40x40 or 30x30 be preferable for the pinto mount?

twinturbo
5th August 2011, 06:52 PM
Will try and get you a pic of my mounts tomorrow.

jps
6th September 2012, 01:53 PM
Having similar problems - using a Pinto with the Sierra rubber engine mounts - the steel mounts that go on the chassis rails are book spec, I trial fitted the engine for the first time last weekend - but the steering shaft wants to run through where the engine mount is now...

Don't want to drop the mounts - as I don't want to loose more ground clearance / create any problems with the prop alignment...

SeriesLandy
6th September 2012, 03:17 PM
Having similar problems - using a Pinto with the Sierra rubber engine mounts - the steel mounts that go on the chassis rails are book spec, I trial fitted the engine for the first time last weekend - but the steering shaft wants to run through where the engine mount is now...

Don't want to drop the mounts - as I don't want to loose more ground clearance / create any problems with the prop alignment...
I ended up ditching the sierra cast mount and making out out of 5mm plate and a bit of tube.

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6183/6106573945_5b681d3566_z.jpg
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