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vmax1974
20th August 2011, 08:28 PM
I have been hunting about for one of these diy powder coating systems for a while and have came across the manufacturer in china and have started asking the questions regarding having a load shipped to me
Question is how many people want one if we can get a group buy together as long as the price is right of course
I dont have any prices yet just want to know how many to order
vmax1974
20th August 2011, 08:32 PM
By the way a simple steel cabinet from ikea a meat thermometer and a couple of heat guns and you hot a dedicated curing oven
Bonzo
20th August 2011, 09:55 PM
Sounds very interesting :)
I very nearly put my hand in my pocket to buy one at Exeter show last year.
Seen some quite good results from those once you get the ideal baking temp right :cool:
I worked for a large industrial machinery manufacturer a few years back, they had a fantastic powder coat line running.
If the part to be powder coated was prepared correctly you can achieve a very durable finish indeed ;)
Powder coated a huge range of things for my boats ( Above the waterline ) & everything I did stood up to marine life very well.
If I remember correctly, the Exeter show price for those kits was £125 on the day .
vmax1974
20th August 2011, 10:05 PM
Yeah I have seen them at about the same price so having a bit of experience importing stuff in the past am thinking I could get it down to about the 80 quid mark
Bonzo
20th August 2011, 10:15 PM
Definately interested at the 80 squid mark :)
My eldest has just paid £250 to have his inlet manifold powder coated :eek:
An absolute rip off if you ask me, well it is when bearing in mind that his engine builder would have been bead blasting his manifold in order to give it a standard alloy finish that was part of the inclusive engine re-build price :confused: :rolleyes:
Big Vern
21st August 2011, 11:09 AM
I have been hunting about for one of these diy powder coating systems for a while and have came across the manufacturer in china and have started asking the questions regarding having a load shipped to me
Question is how many people want one if we can get a group buy together as long as the price is right of course
I dont have any prices yet just want to know how many to order
Yes at £80 ish quid I'd be very interested as I have access to a decent oven at work to bake things in!
BV.
robo
21st August 2011, 11:33 AM
Seen the finished product which is great but have never seen it done. What else ouside if the kit your looking at will be needed. Also how big a piece can you do. Please dont suggest putting it in the oven at home to cure I would end up with no man vegetables.
Bob
vmax1974
21st August 2011, 02:54 PM
Well you could use an infra red heater to do panels and what not or if you doing a chassis you could use a heat gun but it may take a while will be looking for the powders too but I dont want loads lying about my garage was thinking of looking for other tools and gadget's roadster build handy stuff but its all early days
Talonmotorsport
21st August 2011, 07:02 PM
It might be worth finding out what sort of temp is needed to bake off the powder. It's my understanding that using a heat gun won't be enough as the material underneath has to heated for the powder to stick, otherwise it just lays over the material and is prone to peeling off. One thing I do know is that if you make a mess of coating the part and you've baked it if you soak it in thinners for a day it all just falls off.
TheArf
21st August 2011, 07:19 PM
I have been looking at the system advertised in complete kit car for £119 has anybody tried it I quite fancy trying it myself
Argon
robo
21st August 2011, 07:51 PM
I have been looking at the system advertised in complete kit car for £119 has anybody tried it I quite fancy trying it myself
Argon
Was it this one ???
bob
http://www.electrostaticmagic.co.uk/
james3004
21st August 2011, 09:31 PM
I've got one works better on ally in my opinion
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/ZVHturbo18/Part%20Refurb/0054.jpg
robo
22nd August 2011, 07:26 AM
Thats the dobermans danglers. So this system needs no primer and goes on any metals. then pop it into an oven .job done ???????????????????????????:confused:
Bob
vmax1974
22nd August 2011, 07:36 AM
Yeah basically you gotta key the metal first and use a dedicated oven but I got ideas for that just gotta get a metal box to about 180 degrees and you got your oven
robo
22nd August 2011, 08:00 AM
And thats suitable for all brackets ,suspension and engine components.
Temperature rating ???????????
Bob
TheArf
26th August 2011, 07:53 PM
That's the one I have my eye on will try and see what I can find out at the Stafford show
Arfon
baz-r
28th August 2011, 03:12 PM
old fan oven unit from tip or somwhere was my thorts :D
vetteman1355
28th August 2011, 07:27 PM
Check out these guys they may have some ideas I know lots of guys who have used them over here this side of the pond :D http://www.eastwood.com/hotcoat-powder-coating.html
vmax1974
29th August 2011, 01:10 PM
Just an update I am in negotiations with the supplier of the systems looking good so far just gotta get them to sell me less than 100 units its looking like the 80 quid mark is about the right price just to make you all aware I wont be making any money out of this just want to give everyone the chance of having them at the best price I can
So who wants one and how many do I order
K4KEV
29th August 2011, 01:30 PM
What do you get in the kit ?I could well be interested in this
vmax1974
29th August 2011, 02:06 PM
I will get a photo and full description when I get some time have still gotta look at powders but cant stock loads of colours
Have been thinking of setting up a website and offering all the tools and trim if I can get it at the right price not able to go out and buy massive amounts of stock to if people would give me an idea of what they find essential I will look into stocking it
robo
29th August 2011, 02:16 PM
old fan oven unit from tip or somwhere was my thorts :D
What a brilliant idea, that way I wont end up with a rolling pin buried in my head and all my clothes put in a suitcase.
Bob
vmax1974
29th August 2011, 03:24 PM
What a brilliant idea, that way I wont end up with a rolling pin buried in my head and all my clothes put in a suitcase.
Bob
I agree you would not want to cook anything in it after using it to cure the powder coat
The way I understand it is that you would need to have a dedicated 30amp supply to your workshop to run a conventional oven and it could be limited on size of item you can fit inside
TheArf
29th August 2011, 04:04 PM
I too was thinking of an old fan oven or one of those belling table top ovens that they use in bedsits need to look on eBay see what is local
ayjay
29th August 2011, 04:09 PM
No need for 30amp supply for an oven ---its the hob rings which have high demand. Oven on its own is OK.
robo
29th August 2011, 05:39 PM
No need for 30amp supply for an oven ---its the hob rings which have high demand. Oven on its own is OK.
So what you saying is cook the bones then do the sauce or you will blow a fuse?:rolleyes: :)
ayjay
29th August 2011, 07:50 PM
Sauce is ok but dont put the kettle on at the same time:D
vmax1974
30th August 2011, 03:15 PM
Ok I have got the price now but I have decided not to tell till I put the order in they will be about the 80 quid mark but will come without any powder so for now you will have to source that yourself so lets have a list of taker's
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robo
30th August 2011, 04:41 PM
add me to the list please.
bob
vmax1974
30th August 2011, 05:16 PM
Will do robo
Bonzo
30th August 2011, 06:11 PM
Me too :)
I have taken the liberty of adding Robo to the list for you :D
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vmax1974
30th August 2011, 06:20 PM
Thank you very much
Woohoo my 100th post :-)
robo
2nd September 2011, 08:43 AM
Thank you very much
Woohoo my 100th post :-)
Who is going to sort out the powder supplier????????:confused:
vmax1974
2nd September 2011, 11:26 AM
i will look into doing the powders as my profit but we need more people for the systems first 3 just aint enough since i gotta order at least 10
Big Vern
2nd September 2011, 12:14 PM
i will look into doing the powders as my profit but we need more people for the systems first 3 just aint enough since i gotta order at least 10
You can add me to the list
BV:)
robo
2nd September 2011, 12:49 PM
Come on you lot shake a leg add your names.Throw away the hammerite.:) Would like a gun and powder this year.:rolleyes:
Bob
vmax1974
2nd September 2011, 01:23 PM
cheers
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vmax1974
2nd September 2011, 01:31 PM
what colours of powder do people want me to stock
vmax1974
2nd September 2011, 02:13 PM
as promised here is the picture
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robo
2nd September 2011, 02:41 PM
what colours of powder do people want me to stock
I will think about that,will want loads of black for sure, meantime it would be useful to know the coverage rate per what ever size bottle it comes in.
Bob
vmax1974
3rd September 2011, 11:26 AM
I have started talking to powder manufacturer's now still early days so dont have any info yet will post it here when Get it
The price of the systems are £78 plus postage so another 5 quid should cover that so now you all got the price get some more names on the list its 40 cheaper that you will get a powder coat system anywhere else gotta order 10 so another 6 people needed
vmax1974
5th September 2011, 07:58 AM
i have now found an edge trim manufacturer will post a group buy when i get more info
vmax1974
8th September 2011, 11:31 AM
Just an update on the powder coat systems I will be placing the order in the next few days the price is as before they coming by sea so will take about 45 days to get here
I have decided to buy 15 of them so there is plenty available so come on newbes get your orders in now
Bonzo
8th September 2011, 12:13 PM
Great news :)
Give me a holler when they are in.
If for any reason I shouldn't be around on the forum drop me an email via the forum, my email account is checked several times a day ;)
Methinks I may have found a use for that very large range oven that I have just removed from the kitchen :D :D
ayjay
8th September 2011, 02:46 PM
The Hodgson quads will need 4 of them:D :D
vmax1974
8th September 2011, 02:58 PM
The Hodgson quads will need 4 of them:D :D
Thats ok so how many do you want? :-D
ayjay
8th September 2011, 07:30 PM
Ive got enough problems with paint ATM:o :o
Anyway Im hoping Arf might buy one:D :D
http://s1189.photobucket.com/albums/z429/ayjay50/
robo
8th September 2011, 11:42 PM
The how to section here is worth a read.
http://www.electrostaticmagic.co.uk/products/black-gloss
According to this we are going to need spare filters and cups, if the supplies take 45 day it might pay to order some spares now.
Bob
vmax1974
9th September 2011, 09:34 AM
Did think of this have ordered 50 of each
vmax1974
17th September 2011, 07:24 PM
Does anyone else want to order one of these systems before I abandon the idea cause I gotta order 15 units to get the price but if I order them now I could be stuck with 10 that I cant get rid of need another 10 people quickly or I cant commit to ordering them
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