engine for spotty teenager

[robo]

My mate has decided to copy bolt for bolt what i am building and now has just placed an order with phil for a chassis for his teenage boy, so now there are to be three. I am not going to say what i think till i have had a lightening conductor fitted, anyway i am faced with trying to source an engine 1 litre or smaller that can be swapped easily with something bigger at a later date. Whats out there that will take a rwd gearbox and side engine mounts.also that has a bigger brother in the line up for later on???????????

Bob

[twinturbo]

Get an insurance quote first, the engine size may make very little difference.

a 1.6 CVH would be a reasonable start, could be swapped for an RST 1.6CVH and then a 2.0 Zetec as time goes by.

TT

[big_wasa]

Little endura E engine from a ford Ka. Will go on a t9 and upgrade to a zetec at a latter date.

Go older to a fiesta and they run a carb with electronic ignition. They will run on two wires power and earth.

[robo]

Its got to be 1ltr or smaller to get a sensible quote . Have already been down this road on insurance. That three cylinder thing in the small corsa, is the four cylinder the same but just one more pot?

Bob

[robo]

Little endura E engine from a ford Ka. Will go on a t9 and upgrade to a zetec at a latter date.

Go older to a fiesta and they run a carb with electronic ignition. They will run on two wires power and earth.

Whats a t9??

Just realised type 9 and i think there was one in the p100 i just scrapped.

[vmax1974]

I seem to remember from my youth that ford did do a 1400 cvh if that would help not sure what gearbox would fit also they did do the old fiesta 1.1 and 950cc engines again unsure about engine mounts and gearbox bellhousing but it could be worth looking into for a start just my thoughts on the subject

[robo]

I think its looking like that small fiesta engine as its kent based. Does it still use the same bellhousing patern?

[vmax1974]

Not sure he could set the tunnel up for type 9 and use an old escort box that should fit

[Bonzo]

I think its looking like that small fiesta engine as its kent based. Does it still use the same bellhousing patern?

The early fiesta engine was the one that sprang to my mind Bob :)

I am sure that they fitted one that was 1L ( 950'ish cc ? )

As far as I know, it will be the same bolt pattern as the Sierra type 9 gearbox .

No idea if any clutch or flywheel mods will need to be made though.

[MarkB]

Fireblade as below 1000cc just don't say it's a bike engine with 3 times the horsepower of an uncle festa motor:D

[robo]

Was just wondering if that 1ltr engine would every pull 5th gear. What was that 4spd gearbox in the early escort m1 that had a bellhousing all in one called??

Bob

[TSM Locost]

Our 1.3 efi 60ps ka 5 speed worked with 3.61 diff and 165/65 x 13 wheels ok.

hope that helps.

[robo]

Fireblade as below 1000cc just don't say it's a bike engine with 3 times the horsepower of an uncle festa motor:D

Hmm no reverse, that means he could drive off and may never find his way back .:) :) :)

Bob

[mgglep]

the 4 sp box was a rocket box the t9 or rocket are brill choices as they will fit all ford engines right up to the duratec (which they changed the bell housing pattern) so really any ford engine will do

[baz-r]

insurance people have been quick to pick up on the bike engines and now have got wise to them :rolleyes:
there where plenty of locost in yester year with 1300 xflows and 4 and 5 speeds so i dont think there is too much of an issue there.

an early ka 1300 would be a good choice for availbilty or an engine out of a ohv fiesta
getting down to 1000cc or below could make things a little more tricky as im not sure what amount of small engine fiestas or escorts are going to be still around thease days

[robo]

Have put a bid on this.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ford-anglia-105e-997-engine-/120772850069?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1c1e9f7195

The same seller has an anglia box on a seperate auction but would prefer the type 9 as it will be a better box for the car for a later upgrade. Would the pinto bell housing still fit the pre crossflow engine??????????

By doing this am I in for a hiding on the clutch and starter motor front?

Bob:confused:

[Bonzo]

Hi Bob

That looks like it will fit the bill exactly :cool:

Might be worth trying to cut a deal on the 4 speed box as well.

Got a sneaky feeling that some of the earlier ford boxes had built in bell housings ?? ( That could be total crap mind you :D )

Did the early Kent crossflow use a bendix type starter ?

Either way, if you try to keep it all original I doubt you will have any problems getting hold of the right parts to marry it all up :)

One of my mates had a 105E, pimped the engine a little & it went like stink.

That was many moons ago but seemed very fast at that time :D