SSC - GRP Clearout

[spud69]

Well it's finally come to the stage where we have been hoarding grp seconds for the last 2 years and decided to have a good clear-out. Not realising just how much there was up top it would have been a crime to just throw it all away. Knowing that many builders are on a tight budget and these items will certainly help to keep you on budget but will need some work, not a great deal, to tidy them up a bit. This is just for forum members for a week or so, after that i'll put them out on Locost and elsewhere.

I have attached a pdf listing all the items available and also a brief description of work required for each plus a price and postage. I have also put pics of each item on my flickr account with a link below, some bits still have white resin powder on them which will just brush off. I have tried to reflect the amount of work required to the price and are half price or less.

All payments need to be made via PayPal to andrew@saturnsportscars.co.uk with it clear in the comments box of which item ref code you want plus delivery cost (only select one delivery cost per order, 2 or 3 items - if ordering 4 to 5 add £30, for a full set add £95 as these are expensive). I will keep the pdf upto date to try and avoid duplicate orders, if there is a duplicate i'll select the next similar piece if there is one.

All the best EveryOne.........Andrew

Links below:

Flickr Pics:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/saturnsportscars/sets/72157627465453785/

Saturn Stores, compare prices:

http://www.saturnsportscars.co.uk/store/index.php?_a=viewCat&catId=9

PDF List:

[twinturbo]

Ill Take the difuser :)

Not realising just how much there was up top
Over egging you mental abilities are we!!!

TT

[skov]

2FW and 1B for me please!

[james3004]

I'll have 3SC Please :)

[rpjg1975]

It's no wonder Saturn continue to thrive andrew. Sure many companies wouldn't do such things as this and would wait for people to come to them and pay full prices

Pm sent. Wanting 8b, 3fr and 14rw please.

Payment sent through paypal

Cheers
Russ

[maxubar]

Hi.

How much postage to send to Portugal 2B 8RW 4N and 4SC?

Thanks
Tiago

[baz-r]

pm sent :)

[pradaloup]

hello
I am interested in
the bonnet and scuttle
t is it possible to pay by paypal
and the poster for France and what price to all
thank you didier

[K4KEV]

Tha's ganna be flush after shifting that lot Andy....nice one bud... many manufacturers destroy their seconds which I have always thought is crazy....wudev had the diffuser but that bluddy TT is way to sharp.

[cornishmaid]

That is rather a lot of seconds!

[Bonzo]

That is rather a lot of seconds!


Not that many ??? Mark ???

I guess with the with sheer amount of stuff that Saturn produces combined with Saturns quality control policy, it's inevitable that some seconds will be produced.

One thing for sure, it will do some builders a good turn :) :cool:

[bz100]

Hi Andrew,

What would the postage be to send 3RW, 5FW, 7N and 4SC to Portugal?

[Wgroove]

Hello Andrew,
4B
1RP
1SP

Postage to Belgium please !

Regards,

Wim

[Jimmyd]

4n for me please. In the middle of the Irish sea just now pay for it tomorrow

[Bonzo]

5n for me please. In the middle of the Irish sea just now pay for it tomorrow

I hope you are in a boat Jimmy :D :D

Sorry, I couldn't resist :o :o

[voodoo]

One thing for sure, it will do some builders a good turn :) :cool:


I have to agree with that Ronnie! :)

Matt

[Jimmyd]

I hope you are in a boat Jimmy :D :D

Sorry, I couldn't resist :o :o

I was thanks!! Decided to take a day trip to Scotland on the bike. Really good day, several hundred miles later coming back into Stranraer rattle, rattle, bang, bang, cam chain tensioner broke. Was really lucky to coast to the boat and be able to push it on. I think there has been some piston/valve contact, bummer. Then along comes Andys great offer and brightens my day again!!

Andy pm you in a minute.

J

[spud69]

Just trying to keep up,

Postage to Portugal for the items in the few inquiries there would be £100 with Interparcel due to their size.

Inbox keep filling up so if builders don't mind sending e-mails for inquiries it would make it easier please - andrew@saturnsportscars.co.uk

I have attached an updated pdf with a lot more about to go, i'll keep it up to date as best i can.

Kevin, i've got an S2000 engine and loom to pay for.......;)

I would guess about 10% of all parts made are seconds but it soon builds up over 2 years - i couldn't stand to destroy them.

Many Thanks.....Andrew

[spud69]

Updated List:

[mark]

Not that many ??? Mark ???

I guess with the with sheer amount of stuff that Saturn produces combined with Saturns quality control policy, it's inevitable that some seconds will be produced.

One thing for sure, it will do some builders a good turn :) :cool:

Very true on quality, i purchased a diffuser and it had a tiny mark on it, he wouldnt let me have it and made a new one which was totally faultless

I wish whoever made my fibreglass seats had as much attention to detail, the gel is cracking where the matting behind wasnt stuck to it properly :(

[spud69]

Updated PDF.

[monsterob]

cheers spud see you saturday :D

[PorkChop]

Bits bought, me skint now :D

[gaz05]

Whats the best way to paint these and would it be durable?

[PorkChop]

Whats the best way to paint these and would it be durable?

Like any other car TBH. The only difference would be the primer.

[MarkB]

You need specific primer for grp then quality paint so to do a 7 you are perhaps looking at £200 worth of paint then the elbow grease and somewhere to paint it properly as need warmth, having it done by a paint shop would cost more than a new set of panels.

[spud69]

Hi Gaz,

We have a body shop in the unit opposite us and we have had a few pieces sprayed in the past where builders have wanted colors not available in the normal RAL range, pearl colours mainly. They have turned out really good by etching the gel with 800g grit then a few thin layers of colored base coat and lacquered over the top. They have come out very nice but its all in preparation and cleanliness to get a professional finish.

Updated list below:

[Bonzo]

Hi Andy

You can put me down for a wide scoop bonnet please, not fussed which one :)

I think the wide scoop will be an ideal compliment to my Redtop engine & will resolve a few clearance issues that I have.

Email me the payment details & I'll sort it pronto.

I have painted a fair bit of GRP over the years, mainly boats & aftermarket car body kits.
Never had a problem obtaining a good, long lasting finish.

Any decent paint shop will be more than happy to advise on the correct paint system to use on GRP ;) :)

[spud69]

Hi Andy

You can put me down for a wide scoop bonnet please, not fussed which one :)

I think the wide scoop will be an ideal compliment to my Redtop engine & will resolve a few clearance issues that I have.

Email me the payment details & I'll sort it pronto.

I have painted a fair bit of GRP over the years, mainly boats & aftermarket car body kits.
Never had a problem obtaining a good, long lasting finish.

Any decent paint shop will be more than happy to advise on the correct paint system to use on GRP ;) :)

No problem Ronnie - you can collect it on Saturday.....;)

[MarkB]

Painted a few grp bodied cars over the years and I found it easier than messing with normal cars but prep is the key to it all and working clean. Pretty much the same applies to doing grp anyway to avoid problems.

[skov]

Blimey Spud, that was quick - Just received my bonnet and front wings :D
Many thanks!

[spud69]

Blimey Spud, that was quick - Just received my bonnet and front wings :D
Many thanks!

That's good thanks John. I have a good dogs body here that does all the jobs i dont want to do, and he doesn't do computers so he wont see this.

Still looking for suitable ball joints, somebody else has come back to me now saying that their uprights are too tight for the transit drag links which is okay as these can be reamed but it seems there are different versions for the Mk1

Cheers.....AndyH

[davylock]

Payment sent, you have email, thanks Andrew, Dave.

[spud69]

Got it thanks Dave. Missed collections today but will go out tomorrow.

Updated list:

[shh120m]

Andy,
Can you save me a set of rear arches for saturday if you have any left plz mate?
(cant open pdf on this computer)

[james3004]

Mine Scuttle arrived today too cheers Andy, Far better quality than I expected!!!:)

What is the best filler to fill the imperfections?

[Wynand]

What is the best filler to fill the imperfections?

Filler paste made from Micro balloons and general purpose resin. Very light and sands very easily. But any grp fix is only as good as its surface preparation...
Btw, seen some guys use automotive body filler for whats its worth.

[MarkB]

Mine Scuttle arrived today too cheers Andy, Far better quality than I expected!!!:)

What is the best filler to fill the imperfections?

You can either use gel coat with a wax solution(flowcoat) or resin as a filler and if you pigment it the same colour it will be all but hidden and no need to paint.

[spud69]

If you're going to paint them then for the size of the repairs to fill then just standard, "Easy One", will so the job just fine.

AndyH

Updated list:

[Bonzo]

Blooming heck Andy

The courrier turned up with my bonnet at 2.30 this afternoon, that's less than 24hrs between payment & delivery :eek:

Very pleased with the bonnet, other than a couple of small chips to the gel it's almost perfect :)

Soon have that sorted.

Best news, the wide scoop clears the Redtop engine a treat :cool:

I can position & fabricate the gearbox mounts, then organise the propshaft with D&F now that I know what length it will be.

Thanks Andy, fantastic service as usual :)

[spud69]

That's good to know Ronnie clearing the red top head, does what it says on the tin then.

Thanks....AndyH

[Bonzo]

Well pleased with the extra wide scoop Andy :)

Was facing the choice of either loosing more ground clearance or butchering the standard bonnet.

Certainly one less problem for me to resolve :cool:

Before anyone pipes up with " Yes, what about the extra work of painting "

I knew at the outset of my build that I would be using alloy sides & rear tub.
Also knew that I would not be able to live with a mixed alloy & Coloured GRP scheme.
To that end an entire re-paint would be inevitable.

The cost of painting is not as expensive as some folk would have you believe !!
Well not for me as I have the equipment to do the job ;)

[MarkB]

Yes it is if you use the right paint for the job, at least £400 in materials alone aint cheap Ronnie...We have recently painted the Vodou plug and although it's a truly outstanding finish it wasn't what you call "cheap" but it makes for superb finish to the moulds.

[flyerncle]

Price of paint and primers etc has gone through the roof,was not that long ago a litre of single pack air dry paint was £12 and you could paint a car for £100,more like 500 plus these days.

Ronnie ,you could polish and laquer the ally.

[Talonmotorsport]

Some times it's not the price of the materials that makes for a good paint finish, it's how it sprayed on using a good gun in a clean space by some one who knows what they are doing. I have found the price of paint goes up with the quality (although not always the case) how ever it might as well be put on with a roller if the basics are wrong from the start.
If it all goes wrong though I've seen some truely horrible orange peel paint finishes using cheap 2k paint rescued by 1000 grit wet and dry and some time spent with polishing compound and a mop.

[spud69]

Price of paint and primers etc has gone through the roof,was not that long ago a litre of single pack air dry paint was £12 and you could paint a car for £100,more like 500 plus these days.

Ronnie ,you could polish and laquer the ally.

Completely true, its the same for grp based products. About this time last year the EU decided to add a 40% import duty to all grp based products from China, they say to make European based materials more viable. This is all Bo**ox as where else do you go!!!

[davylock]

All arrived ok this AM Andrew thanks, well pleased!.

Will Isopon P40/38 be any good for filling in the edge damage, or do you recommend any particular brand of filler?

Regards, Dave.

[robo]

Some times it's not the price of the materials that makes for a good paint finish, it's how it sprayed on using a good gun in a clean space by some one who knows what they are doing. I have found the price of paint goes up with the quality (although not always the case) how ever it might as well be put on with a roller if the basics are wrong from the start.
If it all goes wrong though I've seen some truely horrible orange peel paint finishes using cheap 2k paint rescued by 1000 grit wet and dry and some time spent with polishing compound and a mop.
Spot on phil.
Recently had to paint a shed load of our kit to tidy it all up. I found a deal on fleabay for some 2k with all the other crap that goes with it for about £25 a litre. I bought about 3 gallons of it, the painter phoned and asked where i got as it was the worst paint he had ever used, he threw the towel in and went and got some decent stuff. You only get what you pay for.

Bob:o

[spud69]

All arrived ok this AM Andrew thanks, well pleased!.

Will Isopon P40/38 be any good for filling in the edge damage, or do you recommend any particular brand of filler?

Regards, Dave.

That's good Davy - Yes Isopon will be fine and you wont need much

AndyH

[MarkB]

First Kit I had painted was the daft Lotus 11ish, all grp bodywork and it cost £1500 as a favour and that was 8 years ago now, damn good finish that couldn't be faulted but if it had been a "proper booked in job" another £1000 would have been added to that. So we opted for the take as long as you like and 1500 folding things option.
Local place wanted £3000 to paint it:eek:

[AshG]

£37 a Litre for a 2pak max meyer with pearl and mica in it the local bsb branch. as long as you dont go for crazy 4-5 part process stuff its not too expensive. i can easily paint a golf sized hatchback with 2-3Litres of paint so all in i would say materials would be about £300. something like the roadster would be max £150 in materials for a basic metalic

[spud69]

First Kit I had painted was the daft Lotus 11ish, all grp bodywork and it cost £1500 as a favour and that was 8 years ago now, damn good finish that couldn't be faulted but if it had been a "proper booked in job" another £1000 would have been added to that. So we opted for the take as long as you like and 1500 folding things option.
Local place wanted £3000 to paint it:eek:

Queer that one Mark, just asked the body shop across from me and if somebody walked in off the street he priced £300 for a full 10 piece body kit including base coat and lacquer. To do individual panels, to a professional finish, would be obviously a lot less. You can purchase spray basecoat from most motor factors now to any colour to do yourself at a very reasonable price.

Somebody's been had there.

[Bonzo]

£37 a Litre for a 2pak max meyer with pearl and mica in it the local bsb branch. as long as you dont go for crazy 4-5 part process stuff its not too expensive. i can easily paint a golf sized hatchback with 2-3Litres of paint so all in i would say materials would be about £300. something like the roadster would be max £150 in materials for a basic metalic


Glad someone else lives in the real world.

There was me thinking that I must have imagined the paint prices I was quoted only yesterday :confused:

Funny the subject of paint should crop up.

Just so happens that my eldest lad got a quote recently for a full re-spray of his Subaru.
1.7k -2k max, inclusive of all door closures.

This quote was from a highly respected local company well renowned for its top notch custom paintwork.

Poor old Scooby is suffering from the dreaded Red paint syndrome & going dull if not polished weekly .... Well apart from the plastics I painted over 3 years ago with a budget ICI paint product, still looking as good as the day I sprayed them :)

Sorry Spud

This is all geting very much off topic :o

Bet you have made a big hole in that list of panels being sold for not a lot :cool:

[spud69]

Sorry Spud

This is all getting very much off topic :o

Bet you have made a big hole in that list of panels being sold for not a lot :cool:

Yes it is Ronnie - Like a lot of threads seem to at the moment!!!!

Never mind it's just nice to give people the choice and i'm sure they can make their own minds up.

There is just under half odd and ends left so going to put it over on Locost soon and let others have a chance. As you said before there is very little work to do on them so its a shame to let them go to waste.

Regards......AndyH

[Bonzo]

There is just under half odd and ends left so going to put it over on Locost soon and let others have a chance. As you said before there is very little work to do on them so its a shame to let them go to waste.

Regards......AndyH


Now that's not a bad idea Andy, I am sure that the remainer will soon get snapped up ;)

One thing for sure .... Bet all of that lovely storage space will soon be filled with Single seater body parts :)

OOOps, there I go again, going all off topic on you once more :o :D

[pradaloup]

hello
I received the parts
very happy
thank you
didier

[rapidtornado]

Hi Andy, have you still got 6B available? I'm assuming this is the bonnet for the dohc engine? If yes then I'll take it as I'm prob going to vinyl wrap

Cheers
Rapid

[spud69]

Hi Andy, have you still got 6B available? I'm assuming this is the bonnet for the dohc engine? If yes then I'll take it as I'm prob going to vinyl wrap

Cheers
Rapid

Hi Rapid,

It's the wide scoop bonnet you need for the dohc, although you still need to alter the plenum chamber - Enoch has a guide to this in his build guide. Afraid all the wide scoop bonnets have gone though.

AndyH

[baz-r]

is the list up to date spud?

[spud69]

It is now Baz:

[baz-r]

i just cant make up my mind on what colour/colours to go for my finished car
its giving me brain pain :(

[shh120m]

Dont go black, youll regret it, i only have to look at my car to scratch it:( does look fantastic before the dust settles on it though:D

[baz-r]

this helps http://www.mcgregormotorsport.co.nz/kits/colour-schemer
been linked befor but best i have found

[spud69]

That does look really good Baz, wish i knew how they did it though. Only trouble is translating that to a RAL colour afterwards - tis very good though, best i've seen.

AndyH

[baz-r]

i have a ral chart :p

[rpjg1975]

Big thanks to the guys at Saturn. First visit finally to pick up my panels and was made to feel very welcome. Won't leave it so long next time. Good to see I'm not the only person who doesn't work in showroom conditions. More 'lived in'

Russ

[shh120m]

Big thanks to the guys at Saturn. First visit finally to pick up my panels and was made to feel very welcome. Won't leave it so long next time. Good to see I'm not the only person who doesn't work in showroom conditions. More 'lived in'

Russ

Thats why hes got rid of all those panels from upstairs, so he can get a bed up there!:D

[james3004]

Have you got anything left spud or has it all gone now?

[spud69]

There are panels left James - give me a nudge on Monday and i'll send post the list back up.

Cheers....AndyH

[brainbug007]

Is it possible to paint over these seconds to change the color?

[vmax1974]

Yeah you could paint over the panels there just fibreglass so as long as you spend the time on prep they should come out looking great

[spud69]

Have you got anything left spud or has it all gone now?

Upto date list of seconds left James:

[brainbug007]

I'd be interested in some of this Andrew. Being an utter newbie when it comes to grp though, could you give me a breif description of what would be required to repair items with descriptions like:

gel cracked
edges to fill
repairs to sand
gel damage to repair

[mitch d]

hi mate im new to the site first post! im interested in 9b.17rw.2n. what would be the delivery on that to essex and how do i go about paying? many thanks.

[spud69]

Car body filler would be fine to fill any holes / cracks, finished off to 800 grit wet and dry, and then a friendly body shop to give them a few coats of paint, or they could be sprayed by hand with standard acryllic spray paint then a lacquer finish. Have seen a few finished off very well like this.

Delivery for these would be £15 TNT Mitch. If you would like to order you can make payment to Saturn via PayPal to andrew@saturnsportscars.co.uk with your order added in the comments box, they are here ready to send out.

Regards.........AndyH

[james3004]

Interested in 6n if 2n has gone spud

[spud69]

Both are still available James

[adrianreeve]

Andy

I'll take the wrong order White bonnet and nosecone please, for my friends car.
I'll pm you to confirm in a mo.

Cheers

Adrian

[mitch d]

cool thanks spud will sort out the payment thro paypal.

[spud69]

Up to date list for seconds attached.

[mitch d]

hi spud payment sent for 2n and 15rw thanks mate

[spud69]

Have received payment thank you Daniel, will be sending them out today.

Also updated list of seconds left:

[squbti]

Hi Spud, I´m interested in(10RW pair ). would 17" wheels fit ? if so then I would like to have thoes please.
Thanks
Samy