Cheap Trailor ?

[Ashtonr]

Has anyone used a towing dolly to transport to the IVA test ? Seen these plans on Ebay looks fairly simple after building a Chassis

[Jimmyd]

I'll stand to be corrected but something tells me a dolly is only legal if used for roadside recovery or some such waffle.

J

[twinturbo]

Drive to the IVA.

TT

[robo]

Might be ok. Two wheeled drive cars can legally tow 60% of their kerbside weight four wheel drive are 100% of kerbside weight. Trailers dont need to be braked untill they are over 750kg, so in theory providing you comply with the rest of the towing blurb you should just about be all right. best to check all of this out because I am old and stupid.

Bob:D

[Davey]

Sorry to s a y it Bob but your last sentence is the only one close to the truth (only joshing pal, couldn't resist it :-) ).

Towing dollies are only legal for recovery to a safe place not for transport of vehicles.

D.

[twinturbo]

If the combined trailer + load is under 750KG then it can be unbraked and used over any distance, if over then it must be braked. Good dollys are braked and suitable for long distance towing. Generally dollies are misused.

Rember also that if you passed your test after Jan 1997, you can't tow anything over 750KG without doing a trailer test.

TT

[robo]

Sorry to s a y it Bob but your last sentence is the only one close to the truth (only joshing pal, couldn't resist it :-) ).

Towing dollies are only legal for recovery to a safe place not for transport of vehicles.

D.

Cant get safer than a vosa depot. <just being old and stupid>.:) Us old gits take it for granted that we can tow things. As tt points out a dolly in affect would be classified as a trailer so you do need to check you license. The 4x4 boys round here tow their green laners on those solid a bar things, thats two tons of unbraked trailer and no one seems to be bothered about it.

Bob

[AshG]

If the combined trailer + load is under 750KG then it can be unbraked and used over any distance, if over then it must be braked. Good dollys are braked and suitable for long distance towing. Generally dollies are misused.

Rember also that if you passed your test after Jan 1997, you can't tow anything over 750KG without doing a trailer test.

TT

yes you can tow more than 750kg as long of the total weight of the vehicle trailer and load on the trailer is under 3.5 tonne

[twinturbo]

Not quite sure what your saying Ash, but Class B drivers >1997 can't tow anything over 750KG.


Category B+E: Vehicles up to 3.5 tonnes MAM towing trailers over 750kgs MAM

Category B+E allows vehicles up to 3.5 tonnes MAM to be combined with trailers in excess of 750kgs MAM. In order to gain this entitlement new category B licence holders have to pass a further practical test for category B+E. There is no category B+E theory test. For driver licensing purposes there are no vehicle/trailer weight ratio limits for category B+E.



TT

[robo]

This all happened when they revised the licence cats. They dropped the gvw of a car license to 3500kg and made in affect the 7500kg an lgv license. It all causes havoc here as some of the younger drivers are not aware of some of these rules. There is also talk of trailer mot`s coming in so any home grown device may need some kind of type approval in the future. The same is happening for this year about a tow bar needing to be type approved, goodbye home grown tow bar devises.:eek:

Bob

[Davey]

Sorry but a car on a dolly does not become a trailer and even if the dolly wheels are braked the car's wheels touching the road won't be so it doesn't comply with trailer law. A towing dolly is ONLY legal for recovery from a breakdown or accident to a place of safety and then it is limited to 30mph on single carriageways and 40mph on dual carriageways or motorways. I've researched this lot quite extensively in the past due to lots of motorhomers towing cars behind on A frames which by the way don't co0mply with trailer law either.

The answer to getting your car to IVA is to drive it, trailer it or transport on a flatbed/recovery type truck.

D.

[SeriesLandy]

Assuming your going to Southampton for iva it's about an hour run maximum providing you don't break down, a bit longer if you don't go on the motorway.

[baz-r]

im sure its to do with total mam's when it comes to towing on an later type licence (what i have)
total mam of car and of trailer must be less than 3500kg (mam= maximum alowable mass)
i asked a traffic copper about it and he said i could not tow a trailer! then i showed him the back of my licence :rolleyes: but no one has been able to give me a stright answer and some trailers dont have marking so what happens then?

good thing is i can tow a trailer of any size with a motor bike or trike after i passed my bike test :D

[baz-r]

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverLicensing/CaravansTrailersCommercialVehicles/DG_10013073

[baz-r]

http://www.iwt.co.uk/1769.file.dld

[twinturbo]

It's no wonder there is so much confusion, my previous quote was also from a page on the gov.uk website about towing..

So.. The maximu trailer weight a class B can actualy pull is 1750KG, so long as the car they have is exactly 1750KG too.

TT

[shh120m]

If the combined trailer + load is under 750KG then it can be unbraked and used over any distance, if over then it must be braked. Good dollys are braked and suitable for long distance towing. Generally dollies are misused.

Rember also that if you passed your test after Jan 1997, you can't tow anything over 750KG without doing a trailer test.

TT


Unless your towing it with a tractor:rolleyes:
It makes me laugh, i used to tow 40 ton loads of timber with a unimog at the age of 16 yet i had to do a trailer test to tow a 1 ton chipper behing a transit!

[Ashtonr]

Guess I need a trailor then, that will be harder to build has anyone made one ?
I dont want to drive the car to IVA as it will imit the amount of tools etc I can take if I need to make last minute adjustments etc

[Bonzo]

It's not really a big deal making a trailer but it will cost a fair bit.

The trailer will most likely need to be braked ( 750k max unbraked including the trailers weight ), new braked hitches & suspension units are very expensive.

A lot of folk have made very good use of an old caravan chassis to build a car trailer, these can be found quite cheaply sometimes ;)

The reason I have not built a car trailer is because I will have nowhere to keep it once made :(

If I really need a trailor, I can hire one localy & reasonably cheaply.

Still use my A frame to drag scrappers to the breakers & will continue to do so till I get busted.
Been seen by the old bill loads of times, not had a pull yet !! :D

[davedew]

I to am going to have to hire a trailer to get car to rolling road and IVA. You can hire a trailer here for £30 for 2 days. Never worth the hassle / expense of building one for that much.

[twinturbo]

I nearly bought a nice looking twin axle trailer two weeks ago, with refurbed brakes, lights and mudguards.. I offerd £525 for it, I just needed to confirm my m8 could store it, but the guy re-listed it and it went for just over £700..... Oh well..

TT

[AshG]

like i said keep the whole lot under 3.5t and your ok.

[robo]

I to am going to have to hire a trailer to get car to rolling road and IVA. You can hire a trailer here for £30 for 2 days. Never worth the hassle / expense of building one for that much.

Lot to be said for hire, always fully road legal. trailers dont like being left unused ,sticking brakes , perished tyres, space and the worry of theft to name a few.

Bob