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Eternal
18th March 2012, 08:40 PM
Hello everyone!
Can do with some advice. I need to fit a large radiator and intercooler in my nosecone. Have been toying with the idea of a 3 core civic radiator but im unsure about the heat load. Can any of you guys advise as to the max size of radiator that can fit in the nosecone but also fit an intercooler.
Any links pics or ideas welcome! Thanks a load want to order them over the next 24 hours so any information welcome!
Eternal
18th March 2012, 08:42 PM
http://www.mishimoto.co.uk/64-66-ford-mustang-289-v8-performance-aluminum-radiator.html is another option that may fit
K4KEV
19th March 2012, 01:38 AM
Hi ET.....if you are struggling with finding an intercooler thats man enough for the job then consider a charge cooler and or water methanol injection I am fitting both to mine and expecting charge temps to be at or around ambient which equates up to 30 percent more atmospheric air ie more oxy, I think you might struggle with a air to air intercooler. you could just go with water/meth injection and not even bother with any intercooler ....and as a bonus methanol can be as cheap as 60p litre due to the bio diesel guys using lots of it you also cut it wit water to 50/50 so it is now down to 30p a litre another bonus is it allows more boost before the onslought of detonation and it also lifts your fuel grade by a couple of octanes......food for thought dude :cool:
Eternal
19th March 2012, 07:55 AM
interesting! Something to think about for sure.
Another option i have found is using a radiator out of a westfield SEiGHT the 5 core job. These are designed for v8's so should be ok. Then use a 2wd escort cosworth intercooler... http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cosworth-Intercooler-Ford-Sierra?item=290680649487&cmd=ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D5%26po%3D LVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D7106396589233258759 on top that should all fit quite well and not cost a massive amount. If temps are high still can look at a 2nd rad in the boot with a charge cooler. But im also thinking about having two oil coolers as well. So over all the temps i think will be ok.
robo
19th March 2012, 05:27 PM
A discovery rad would fit in there easy. They come as a four core standard with drop in pegs for ease of fitment and measure <just pulled one out of the shed so this is right> 540mm wide x 450mm high x 75mm thick. That can cool a 2.5 td pulling 2 ton of 4x4 so it would cope with just about anything in a roadster. it also has the oil cooler in the tanks so thats another thing out of the way. A decent second hand unit would only set you back £30. They also have an intercooler that might be usable .
https://www.firstfour.co.uk/item/2170836/radiator-assembly-for-200tdi
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=discovery+radiator&hl=en&sa=X&biw=1366&bih=624&tbm=isch&prmd=imvns&tbnid=pGN5z9DNDtMCsM:&imgrefurl=http://www.aaronradiator.co.uk/catalog/Land_Rover_Discovery_Radiator-918-1.html&docid=Ou4qi_sJPP7WkM&imgurl=http://www.aaronradiator.co.uk/website/storeimage/2AU199-10.jpg&w=640&h=468&ei=h3JnT7PuJIjV8gPEoMypCA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=272&vpy=148&dur=235&hovh=192&hovw=263&tx=137&ty=105&sig=108719269629639493973&page=1&tbnh=133&tbnw=161&start=0&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0
Bob
baz-r
19th March 2012, 08:04 PM
a merc 190e has a very small rad 300x300x45mm and cools 1.8-2.3 motors and has been used to cool meny comp cars in the past
pritty heavy car with a fair size motor
Eternal
20th March 2012, 09:47 AM
Intercooler is sorted. Found that the Escort 2wd Cosworth has a nice size intercooler that will fit between the top of the chassis and nosecone.
By removing an intercooler infront of the radiator this should help quite a bit. Next step i think is to find a Westfield SEiGHT V8 Radiator..... :) Or an alternative that is no more than 580mm x 350mm
http://carphotos.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/2845/41/7110020004_large.jpg
Eternal
31st March 2012, 07:32 PM
Ok guys can i ask for some help....... :D I need to find a radiator that can take a bit of HP but be below the intercooler level. The front frame is stock size so if any of you guys know of a radiator that has tanks in the side rather than the top please let me know! heh
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2940/20120331180158.jpg
carlknight1982
31st March 2012, 08:15 PM
As Baz said the 190E has a good small double core rad, plus if i remember right the power steering fluid is cooled in a small oil cooler built into the rad im sure that could be used to cool engine oil with an inline thermostat.
Eternal
31st March 2012, 08:25 PM
Indeed the 190e rads are quite good but would like to run a full aluminium radiator and i dont think any are made for that model. Also from memory its quite a high rad and will need a slightly shorter one.
Eternal
31st March 2012, 10:10 PM
Sounds interesting! VERY thick rad with lots of cores so should do the job!
"This listing is for the basic radiator shown and any alterations you will need carrying out. These may include the fitting of a filler neck, different placement of hoses, different sized hoses or different design of side bands.
The overall dimensions are 320mm high x 470mm wide (520mm including side bands) x 75mm thick. This radiator has a 4 row core fitted.
If the sizes of this radiator aren't near your requirements please get in touch with me on the number below."
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kit-Car-Radiator-designed-cool-3-0-3-5-/330408896216?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4cede7a6d8
CTWV50
1st April 2012, 12:05 AM
Off topic I know but what seats are they?
Eternal
2nd April 2012, 11:12 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-GOLF-MK2-16V-HIGH-FLOW-ALLOY-RACE-RADIATOR-1-6L-1-8L-GTI-/180832936489?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2a1a7ba229
looks like an ideal solution. shame its not 3 core but still lots like alot of surface area. depends if this is any better than the 3 core polo rads or 3 core civic ones.
Eternal
2nd April 2012, 11:40 PM
or
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Kit-Car-Radiator-designed-cool-3-0-3-5-/330408896216?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item4cede7a6d8
its hard to decide both will fit :D 4 core vs 2
Eternal
5th April 2012, 09:01 PM
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/3293/20120405182848.jpg What do you guys think? Dual core and not a bad size! ofc it will be flipped the other way around.
robo
6th April 2012, 06:44 PM
Thats a decent looking piece. I found this site http://www.northernradiators.co.uk/index:search.html and if you click on the details bit at the bottom of the box up comes all the dimensions along with connections. Gives you a chance to gander at all the options. Worth a bookmark.
Bob
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