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robo
4th August 2012, 09:21 AM
Does anyone know who built this car ?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130736997401?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Bob
K4KEV
4th August 2012, 11:56 AM
don't know Rob....but I do know it is not a haynes wishbones looked more like a locost.
Deanno
4th August 2012, 12:49 PM
i thought the same thing.
It looks like the roadster body, but funny wishbones were they the same design as the Ron Champion ones?
Dean
Talonmotorsport
4th August 2012, 03:06 PM
To me it looks more like an MK Indy than a Roadster but then both where designed by Martin Keenan.
baz-r
4th August 2012, 05:46 PM
2.2 for a pinto! i thorght 2.1 was the limit?
robo
5th August 2012, 04:07 PM
my mate just bought this for the spotty teenager , he got pissed off waiting for roadster stuff to turn up. 1 less for me to worry about, anyway engine is coming out to have a 1ltr anglia engine fitted so this 2.something pinto will be up for grabs and open to offers. i will run it up and check compression and oil pressure,
bob
robo
6th August 2012, 08:37 PM
Its a haynes .Collected the car tonight and before parting with the cash gave it the once over. The guy who built the chassis was an engineer and has made a fantastic job of the chassis and wishbones. Its all in stainless and its all tig welded to a very high standard. The lower front wishbones are that oval tube but again all in stainless. Fuel tank and side panels are also stainless. Someone bought it after he died and started to complete the build to a shit standard with the odd brackets mig welded on . It will only take a few hours to strip it back to where the proper job stopped. I will post up some piccies when its pulled down. Its got a quick rack,new springs and shocks,nose cone,scuttle, sierra rear with drums and push in shafts, steerings connected, tubular exhaust manifold with a side pipe, all new front vented discs and calipers, alloy wheels, headlights, all the wiring which is done, rad is in and mounted ,engine gearbox and prop are all done and pedal box .Not a bad buy for £820
Bob
MikeB
7th August 2012, 11:30 AM
seems like a bargain.
Are you sure its a haynes though the back end isn't quite the same, looking at the top mounts for the rear coilovers and the rear suspension cage.
Not sure why someone would change the wishbone design either. The front chassis frame is normally the give away along with the steering column mounts.
Good price for all the bits though!
Dualist
7th August 2012, 07:03 PM
It's all in stainless.??
Once it's on the road check for cracks religiously, I was gonna build one out of stainless but got told it don't like shocks and will crack, not where the welds are but a few inches away from them, basically everywhere.
One of the guys I work with, his boss build a trailer out of stainless and went on a camping trip to France, even though it didn't have a big load on it (just his tent and some gear) the chassis of the trailer had cracked around tubes near the suspension mounts and ended up left on the side of the road as it couldn't be repaired, he had copied a mild steel version so though it would have been ok, obviously it deals with stresses in a different manner.
twinturbo
7th August 2012, 09:06 PM
2.2 for a pinto! i thorght 2.1 was the limit?
Plenty of 2.4's about.
TT
robo
7th August 2012, 09:37 PM
Plenty of 2.4's about.
TT
It's all in stainless.??
Once it's on the road check for cracks religiously, I was gonna build one out of stainless but got told it don't like shocks and will crack, not where the welds are but a few inches away from them, basically everywhere.
One of the guys I work with, his boss build a trailer out of stainless and went on a camping trip to France, even though it didn't have a big load on it (just his tent and some gear) the chassis of the trailer had cracked around tubes near the suspension mounts and ended up left on the side of the road as it couldn't be repaired, he had copied a mild steel version so though it would have been ok, obviously it deals with stresses in a different manner.
Stainless is ok providing that you use the right grade . hytens1200 or somthing like it is the way to go. i would like to think that the guy who built it has done the research but point taken and will check it out. TT how can I tell if its a 2.2 without pulling the head off. is it a stroke or an overbore?
Bob
baz-r
7th August 2012, 10:29 PM
it could be just the side panels as the expence of a full s/s chassis would be silly
as for 2.1+ pintos are thay stroked or are thay just over boared?
twinturbo
7th August 2012, 10:59 PM
Stroked and bored
If done cheap they are crap, it takes a lot to get a good one built.
TT
chrisponter
7th August 2012, 11:23 PM
It's all in stainless.??
Once it's on the road check for cracks religiously, I was gonna build one out of stainless but got told it don't like shocks and will crack, not where the welds are but a few inches away from them, basically everywhere.
One of the guys I work with, his boss build a trailer out of stainless and went on a camping trip to France, even though it didn't have a big load on it (just his tent and some gear) the chassis of the trailer had cracked around tubes near the suspension mounts and ended up left on the side of the road as it couldn't be repaired, he had copied a mild steel version so though it would have been ok, obviously it deals with stresses in a different manner.
Sounds like weld decay, the chromium in the stainless steel reacts due to the heat of the welding process leaving a band of non-stainless steel around the weld, which then leads to cracks or corrosion. Depends which grade of stainless steel it is.
robo
11th August 2012, 09:43 PM
Ok you lot are right its odd ball. I stuck a tape over it and its 2" narrower than the haynes. But what is it?
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/mypickys/100_0751.jpg
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/mypickys/100_0752.jpg
Do ya naw wert i iz yit?
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/mypickys/100_0753.jpg
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/mypickys/100_0754-1.jpg
Bob
robo
11th August 2012, 09:54 PM
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/mypickys/000_0132.jpg
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/mypickys/000_0133.jpg
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/mypickys/100_0756.jpg
http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/mypickys/000_0139.jpg
bob
wylliezx9r
11th August 2012, 11:24 PM
They look like Indy front wishbones to me. And if I'm,not mistaken isn't the Indy 2 inches narrower than the Haynes? But that isn't an indy chassis LOL, who knows
alga
12th August 2012, 11:21 AM
Could be a Locost with Rorty IRS.
Wynand
12th August 2012, 07:24 PM
Could be a Locost with Rorty IRS.
They look like Indy front wishbones to me. And if I'm,not mistaken isn't the Indy 2 inches narrower than the Haynes? But that isn't an indy chassis LOL, who knows
Im gonna be devils advocate here;)
If the chassis is the same width as the original book chassis (2 inches narrower than roadster) but 4 inches longer in length than the book one, it might just be a McSorley 400 chassis. The chassis construction point towards this.
The McSorley 442 & 442E are 4 inches longer and wider and 2 inches higher (albeit differently portioned between these two chassis) than the std book.
chassis.
Wishbones is not indicative of a specific design in many cases simply because many change these items for aesthetic or geometry reasons. In my case I modified the upper WB to add more positive caster and both bottom and lower WB are of my own design. Many others does the same all the time for whatever reasons they see fit.
Not Anumber
16th August 2012, 10:34 AM
My money would be on it being either a McSorley or perhaps a modified Robin Hood chassis.
As far as I can make out those wishbones look identical to those on my MK Indy.
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