Sneak Peak : Equinox new nose cone

[Ben_Copeland]

Got some sneak peak of the buck for the new equinox Nosecone

You asked and Dave has created it.

Took these today :

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy31/ben_copeland7/045FCBB0-9F5E-4AE6-B6C1-8D54264EAEFC-88-0000000078A9FE1C.jpg

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy31/ben_copeland7/CCFE0D72-F9BA-49A4-A45C-14B661381DED-88-00000000823FAB90.jpg


UPDATED PICTURE see others later in thread
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1261/phuppimagekdix.jpg

Plus a picture of the bodywork fitted to a customers car (old nose cone)

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy31/ben_copeland7/DC33369D-46F5-4A91-89F7-B62036BD82A3-88-0000000086A86447.jpg


Dave hopes that people will like the new nose and welcomes feedback.

[robo]

You have to be impressed with the way dave responded to that nosecone request. When you think we have been waiting years to see the vindaloo body products. Anyway you asked for a critical eye to be cast over it and here it is,in my opinion which is humble and worthless:p i think the whole thing is brilliant till it gets down to the oil cooler aperture. I think it needs more of a radius on the two bottom corners and slightly reducing the width of the cooler hole and again more of a radius in the aperture to stop it looking letter box like.

Bob

[ayjay]

I think it looks good -a vast improvement.
However I think the opportunity may have been missed to design something a bit different eg flowing the two shapes into each other :eek:

[Ben_Copeland]

Ok so if it flowed into eachother and the radius at the bottom corners changed it would be spot on

[DRCorsa]

It looks nice but it would be better if the sides were wider and covering more the wishbones when you look at it at the front.

[robo]

yep:) Carefull how you tell him cos you might end up wearing it for a hat.

Bob

[Ben_Copeland]

It looks nice but it would be better if the sides were wider and covering more the wishbones when you look at it at the front.

It's not a very good picture tbh. They do cover the wishbone mounts well. The picture makes it look narrower than it is.

[Ben_Copeland]

yep:) Carefull how you tell him cos you might end up wearing it for a hat.

Bob

I think helpful criticism is likely to result in a product that everyone wants.

[robo]

It might also pay for the aperture to be set back a bit more as well because when the blank is cut out there wont be enough of a lip to clean up the edge and fit an edging strip. just thoughts.

bob

[Davidbolam]

Looks good. I like the way the rear arches on the customers car fits the wheels nicely.

whos car is it?

[Ben_Copeland]

Looks good. I like the way the rear arches on the customers car fits the wheels nicely.

whos car is it?

I'm not sure but I'll ask Dave.


I saw that kit going out and the quality is absolutely spot on. Dave is very fussy about his grp quality and it definately shows!


My bodyworks on order and will be taking loads of pictures once it's all on.

[Ben_Copeland]

It might also pay for the aperture to be set back a bit more as well because when the blank is cut out there wont be enough of a lip to clean up the edge and fit an edging strip. just thoughts.

bob

That should be simple enough to do. It's the only nose I've seen with any type of return on it too. Plus the box on the bottom is ideal place for a number plate lol

[MikeB]

That looks a lot better.
The kit looks really good on the customers car.
I still don't like the high scuttle but that's probably just me :)
Credit to equinox for making the changes, the bonnet bulge does look like a direct copy of the old saturn one, but then the whole seven concept isn't exactly unique!

[Ben_Copeland]

You have to be impressed with the way dave responded to that nosecone request. When you think we have been waiting years to see the vindaloo body products. Anyway you asked for a critical eye to be cast over it and here it is,in my opinion which is humble and worthless:p i think the whole thing is brilliant till it gets down to the oil cooler aperture. I think it needs more of a radius on the two bottom corners and slightly reducing the width of the cooler hole and again more of a radius in the aperture to stop it looking letter box like.

Bob

Radius has already been cut into it this morning. He's on the case :)

[baz-r]

think its nice
the lower section could do with a more organic rounded shape in my opinion

[MikeB]

Most people will have a number plate covering the lower oil cooler bit unless its just a track car.

[DRCorsa]

It's not a very good picture tbh. They do cover the wishbone mounts well. The picture makes it look narrower than it is.

Thank you Ben!
For those of us who have not welded the headlight brackets yet, maybe it could be a possibility to innovate a bit and make a shape that will incorporate the headlights? This way the nosecone will be more wide and improve the aerodynamics a bit.
I attach a pic from an example of a US kitcar. I don't quite like that particular design but it could be made a bit more delicate and smooth.
Just a thought! :)

http://www.drainplugmagnets.com/images/710_DSCI1003.JPG

[rpjg1975]

Most people will have a number plate covering the lower oil cooler bit unless its just a track car.

I believe you don't actually need a front number plate as you can get an exemption from dvla due to there not being enough of a flat surface to mount it to :)

[Ben_Copeland]

Couple of new pictures.

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/2322/phuppimagesih.jpg



http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy31/ben_copeland7/AB7EB514-E00C-4307-812F-FDE1B83C582E-965-00000140052AEC09.jpg

I don't think the pictures will do it justice. More pictures tomorrow from better angle.

[Ben_Copeland]

Thank you Ben!
For those of us who have not welded the headlight brackets yet, maybe it could be a possibility to innovate a bit and make a shape that will incorporate the headlights? This way the nosecone will be more wide and improve the aerodynamics a bit.
I attach a pic from an example of a US kitcar. I don't quite like that particular design but it could be made a bit more delicate and smooth.
Just a thought! :)

http://www.drainplugmagnets.com/images/710_DSCI1003.JPG

Not a chance of that. It's too much a radical redesign. The bodywork is for a Haynes roadster. That's something else I'm affraid.

[DRCorsa]

Ben, yous pics are not showing up mate.

[Ben_Copeland]

Should be working now

[SeriesLandy]

http://www.drainplugmagnets.com/images/710_DSCI1003.JPG[/QUOTE]

I was just sick, that is hideous

[DRCorsa]

@SeriesLandy
I agree, it's BS (Boring Shape.. :D )

[Cyberbeej]

I believe you don't actually need a front number plate as you can get an exemption from dvla due to there not being enough of a flat surface to mount it to :)

Anybody got some more info on this?
I would rather not fit the front plate as i think it doesn't look right and i'm not fitting a stick on one.

[Ben_Copeland]

Anybody got some more info on this?
I would rather not fit the front plate as i think it doesn't look right and i'm not fitting a stick on one.

It is against the law to not have a number at the front. Your car will have enough area to fit one so even if it was possible to get excemption, you wouldn't get it.

Just cos it looks crap doesn't mean you don't have to fit it unfortunately

[DRCorsa]

Just cos it looks crap doesn't mean you don't have to fit it unfortunately

Oh Jesus... :D

http://www.drainplugmagnets.com/images/710_DSCI1003.JPG

[Dualist]

Couple of new pictures.

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/2322/phuppimagesih.jpg



http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy31/ben_copeland7/AB7EB514-E00C-4307-812F-FDE1B83C582E-965-00000140052AEC09.jpg

I don't think the pictures will do it justice. More pictures tomorrow from better angle.

That is way better and quickly modified.
What size cooler will that now take.?

[Ben_Copeland]

13 inch cooler apparently.

Not photoshoped either ;-)

[ayjay]

that looks sooo much better:)

What about trying to fl---------naaah:D :D :D

[Ben_Copeland]

Dave was quite excited with this latest shape.

[skov]

It is against the law to not have a number at the front. Your car will have enough area to fit one so even if it was possible to get excemption, you wouldn't get it.

Just cos it looks crap doesn't mean you don't have to fit it unfortunately

Carl Knight seems to have got an exemtion letter from the DVLA for his - have a look here:

http://www.haynes.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=7975

[rpjg1975]

It is against the law to not have a number at the front. Your car will have enough area to fit one so even if it was possible to get excemption, you wouldn't get it.

Just cos it looks crap doesn't mean you don't have to fit it unfortunately

There is already at least one forum member with the exemption letter from the dvla!!!!!

The saturn nosecone that many builders will already have actually doesn't have enough of a vertical flat surface to fix one to, and if you did fit one then you would smash it off everytime you got close to something. This is the same reason as a motorbike only has to have one fitted to the rear.

Incidentally how would you fit one to the new equinox nosecone if one had to be fitted as it would just cover the extra bottom slot, and if it was fitted over the new slot then what would be the point in even bothering having it???

[Ben_Copeland]

Presumably he wrote to DVLA saying he couldn't fit a plate and they responded with exception.

He could quite easily fit one and the BiB would read that excemption letter see there is space and fine him suitably. As they should.

Now if he'd sent pictures of the car and DVLA agreed it didn't need a plate, then that's another story..... but I doubt he did.

Personally it's not worth the hassle of getting stopped regularly.

[Ben_Copeland]

There is already at least one forum member with the exemption letter from the dvla!!!!!

The saturn nosecone that many builders will already have actually doesn't have enough of a vertical flat surface to fix one to, and if you did fit one then you would smash it off everytime you got close to something. This is the same reason as a motorbike only has to have one fitted to the rear.

Incidentally how would you fit one to the new equinox nosecone if one had to be fitted as it would just cover the extra bottom slot, and if it was fitted over the new slot then what would be the point in even bothering having it???


Across to openning of the larger hole. There's space to drill a hole either side. I've done this on my old Nosecone and it's fine. Lines up with the corners of the number plate.

[rpjg1975]

Across to openning of the larger hole. There's space to drill a hole either side. I've done this on my old Nosecone and it's fine. Lines up with the corners of the number plate.

Would that not block a lot of the air flow?:confused:

[Ben_Copeland]

Not enough to worry about if your careful where you fit it.

[skov]

Think we're going a bit off topic here...
Interestingly there's a dedicated section in the IVA manual for the rear registration plate, but I can't find any mention of it needing a front registration plate!

[robo]

Couple of new pictures.

http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/2322/phuppimagesih.jpg



http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy31/ben_copeland7/AB7EB514-E00C-4307-812F-FDE1B83C582E-965-00000140052AEC09.jpg

I don't think the pictures will do it justice. More pictures tomorrow from better angle.

Thats the nuts :cool: and more:cool: .Me likes me wants. F@@k that boy is quick. Wonder if he will be making some fat bastard bucket seats for the roadster in the near future. hint hint

Bob

[Ben_Copeland]

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy31/ben_copeland7/870917E8-682F-425E-B192-5309BC942098-89-0000000259EE67F1_zps988daaa4.jpg

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy31/ben_copeland7/376D7109-B6B5-47AD-AC2B-C4C3BDE10662-89-00000002573D6184_zps3758b2d4.jpg

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy31/ben_copeland7/F59EEA3F-2021-40EE-B8FB-A0E74BF25FC9-89-0000000256506987_zps893a5e7a.jpg


More pictures as promised.

Bit more exciting news on the horizon, which I'll put a new thread up for :)

[Ben_Copeland]

Bob, yes he's making fat boy seats too....


I've already given him maximum measurements from my chassis ;)

[DRCorsa]

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy31/ben_copeland7/870917E8-682F-425E-B192-5309BC942098-89-0000000259EE67F1_zps988daaa4.jpg

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy31/ben_copeland7/376D7109-B6B5-47AD-AC2B-C4C3BDE10662-89-00000002573D6184_zps3758b2d4.jpg

http://i775.photobucket.com/albums/yy31/ben_copeland7/F59EEA3F-2021-40EE-B8FB-A0E74BF25FC9-89-0000000256506987_zps893a5e7a.jpg


More pictures as promised.

Bit more exciting news on the horizon, which I'll put a new thread up for

It looks really great! :)
If you are at the place, could you please take a pics or two of the LHD dashboard? Thanks!

[Ben_Copeland]

Well if you dont need an oil cooler hole, you can fit the number over the hole or you can use the original nosecone. It was made that way because people asked for it. You cant please everybody all the time unfortunately.

[DRCorsa]

One question Ben.
How much is the internal height of the bonnet? I ask to see if my engine (BEC) will fit under it without the need to make a cut.

[robo]

Carl Knight seems to have got an exemtion letter from the DVLA for his - have a look here:

http://www.haynes.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=7975

Is it not ok to stick a number on the nose cone like lots of other sports cars?

http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k577/mypickys/ACCobraracecar_zps153442fc.jpg


Bob

[TalonMotorFabrication]

A number plate made up of stickers over the nose will not currently pass an MOT so it's a good job it only has to be there once a year then. A square lorry type plate with 50x 12mm holes drilled through the white section will.

[Ben_Copeland]

One question Ben.
How much is the internal height of the bonnet? I ask to see if my engine (BEC) will fit under it without the need to make a cut.

Internal at the back it's 264mm at the front it's 203mm I would allow another 4mm for the thickness of fiberglass on the side panels on top of the metal rail.

[robo]

Bob, yes he's making fat boy seats too....


I've already given him maximum measurements from my chassis ;)

Any piccies of the seats ??????

Bob

[Ben_Copeland]

Any piccies of the seats ??????

Bob

I'll ask for you.