Pinto position

[DaveyB]

Has any one any actual measurements for the engine mounts position for a pinto engine or is best waiting and trial fitting the engine ?

DaveyB

[TheArf]

I'm waiting to possition it in and then line up the mounts to suit

[mgglep]

the engine is governed by the gearbox mount i fitted my engine so it was level as it would be in the car i bolted the gearbox mount in then blocked the engine up then made my mounts to suit

[baz-r]

if your fitting a type9 box then its dependent on the gearstick and reversing light switch clearence in trans tunnel tubes and clutch arm clearence

you do get the motor quiet far back :D

[robo]

Its always worth asking the question as others have tripped up on the way. Series landy [ steve] had issues with his drivers side mount and steering shaft configuration so it might be worth a dig about his build thread before you get the mig out.

Bob

[SeriesLandy]

As bob says I had a few problems with the pinto.
1st I struggled to get the g/box far enough back. The clutch fork was hard up against the chassis rails, and in 1st gear the leaver hit the bar in front. So I moved the gear lever back with a remote selector.

The engine mounts are another story. I used the near side one as per the book with cast strut and rubber mount.
On the o/side I originally went book spec but the steering shaft hit the bolt on the top of the engine rubber.
I fabbed up a new strut and removed the book 3mm plate mount and welded in a flat plate to the chassis rails.

I would say that I wouldn't weld anything Untill you trial fit the engine.

There are some pics of my mounts in my sig

[mgglep]

I didn't use the straight mounts I made angled mounts so I had plenty of clearance for the steering shaft

[mgglep]

Found a pic

http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/67605695@N04/6153645019/

[DaveyB]

Oh wow cheers guys thanks for all your thoughts on this subject your help has been spot on thanks again.
DaveyB

[DaveyB]

I recently asked about the vauxhall red top engine being a suitable choice for fitment, and got great help thanks for that, they look and seem a good choice. Then I get talking to a neighbour who tells me he has an old pinto in his garage he does not want, and I think maybe this would be an easier choice at the moment if I did go for this engine do I still need some form of receipt for iva proof of purchase /acquirement etc. he said it was in a cortina originally and has be ported amongst other things would this be a good motor to go for.
Thanks
DaveyB

[alga]

Although I use a Zetec, I can say that you will have the bell housing sticking into the engine bay by at most about 8 cm. If you can push it further back by a couple of cm, do it!

[DaveyB]

Alga thanks for the reply are you referring to the pinto engine?
Thanks
DaveyB

[alga]

It's the gearbox and the position of the gear stick that's dictating the position of the engine. Type 9 is the same regardless of what engine you bolt to it. Just measured, my bellhousing is sticking out into the engine bay by 55 mm in fact. Then both the reverse switch and the gear stick are both well clear of the tranny tunnel tubes.

[alga]

If you look at this pic you will see that the gear stick is very close to TT5, and the reverse switch is easily obscured by TT4.

http://locost.lt/pic/215

[DaveyB]

Albert,Thanks that's a great picture, I think with the vauxhall red top engine there is some sort of adapter plate that goes between the engine and gearbox not sure about this, not sure how that would effect the positioning of the gear lever etc, my friend has been advising me that the vauxhall red top is a great engine choice over a pinto but I think that a pinto and type 9 gearbox will be more readily available and as it is what the book is based on I would favour that route.
Not sure at the moment.

Thanks for your help,
DaveyB

[baz-r]

I still need some form of receipt for iva proof of purchase /acquirement etc. he said it was in a cortina originally and has be ported amongst other things would this be a good motor to go for.
Thanks
DaveyB

what ever engine you use you would only need to proove the engine (block) age for emissions testing

no proof of age meens it go's as a brand new engine so tightest std and cat will be needed and closed loop fuel injection and spot on combustion thats going to be hard for a non cat engine

if you can prove its a pre 95 engine then its a basic emissions test for non cat cars thats pritty easy to pass

ford engins can be dated form the first two engine letters some iva stations will exept this from a chart others want a letter from ford. a log book is no good as people where registering there doner as having an engine swap pre build