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CTWV50 18th August 2014 02:02 PM

Got the rear bonnet catches done the other day.They come with IVA covers from caterham and are reasonably priced they hold the bonnet down really tight.



Also got my pedal removable cover sorted out with a nice little hole for the speedo cable


CTWV50 18th August 2014 02:05 PM

ECU is now solidly mounted to the inside of the scuttle. I'm starting to sort out under the dash.I've put it off long enough.:rolleyes:

onedayTM 21st August 2014 07:29 PM

hi chris just been looking at your build, really great job but I noticed that you lowered your floor which is something I am looking at doing as I'm quite tall and would like to sit abit lower in the car. Can you tell me how much you lowered by and what thickness steel you used.
cheers
tony

TalonMotorFabrication 21st August 2014 08:12 PM

You could just swap BR1-12 and the bottom of the front frame for 50x25mm ERW, then just build as usual to keep every thing easy to work out. Obviously you'd be looking at custom side panels and you'd need to rework the bottom of the nose.

CTWV50 21st August 2014 09:32 PM

As the engine needed dropping 40mm below the bottom rails, I decided to drop the floor 40mm as well as I felt like I was sitting on top of the car. I used 3mm thick 50mm x 50mm angle iron stitch welded to the bottom rail, this added 12.75kg to the weight. The angle was welded to the inside of all the bottom rails of the drivers side but to the outer rails of the drivers side tunnel so I could run brake and fuel lines along it. A 2mm steel floor was used. On the pass side I just wanted the seat height to match. So I just lowered where the seat bolted in.

If I was doing it again. I would buy 2mm steel sheet, mark out where I wanted it bent and have the local steel yard bend it as this would save some weight, but not much. And it would be a better job I might imagine.

Seats bolt straight to the floor.

Hope that helps.:)

onedayTM 21st August 2014 11:00 PM

ok thanks chris.

CTWV50 22nd August 2014 07:51 PM

A Little job but very satisfying and motivating.



Thank you very much David. Love the Mazda IVA cover. Wheel feels great in your hands and there's more cockpit space now for my knees. I can still see my clocks and, as an added bonus, I can get in like getting in the bath rather than getting in to a sewer pipe, like before.:D

CTWV50 25th August 2014 08:13 PM

Let this be a lesson to all of you!



PLAN YOUR WIRING/PANELING CAREFULLY. Took me all day that did!:roll eyes:

edit: used an old filing cabinet. Hence the brown.

K4KEV 25th August 2014 08:49 PM

nice job Chris....neater than mine:(

CTWV50 25th August 2014 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K4KEV (Post 98538)
nice job Chris....neater than mine:(

Wiring is neatish, I suppose. Panelling on the other hand is.....interesting!:D

rpjg1975 25th August 2014 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTWV50 (Post 98534)
Let this be a lesson to all of you!



PLAN YOUR WIRING/PANELING CAREFULLY. Took me all day that did!:roll eyes:

edit: used an old filing cabinet. Hence the brown.

Sounds familiar.....my filing cabinet was grey!!!! :D

CTWV50 25th August 2014 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rpjg1975 (Post 98540)
Sounds familiar.....my filing cabinet was grey!!!! :D

Good strong, yet thin steel!:)

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTWV50 (Post 97075)
update.

After getting the fuse box all sorted and neat and all the wires needed to the front of the car, I discovered I had a popped 20Amp fuse in the (ad) fan location, I stupidly assumed this was the rad fan being tired at around 10:30pm and spent an hour looking for the problem. Couldn't find the issue and went to bed. Spent another hour in the morning looking at it again and then realised it wasn't the cooling fan fuse at all! Just some f***ng random fuse that doesn't appear anywhere in the wiring diagrams and is for the fan if you have Aircon. WTF the car never came with aircon why did they fit a fuse that's some how now pops whenever it's replaced. Bit p***d off about that.

Anyway I ended up checking all my wiring out sort of and couldn't find a single problem which I suppose is good.

Tonight I never got into the garage till 9pm, two hours later i had fully functioning head lamps !

Remember this? No. Well I did. Yesterday I found the problem. Hidden in a wiring rubber boot I found a connector with nothing to plug it into?!? Seems there is a little black wire with little silver bands that comes from the main engine loom. It's just an earth. But it fits perfectly into an unused hole in the fuse box and will quiet neatly earth the unused AD FAN fuse.:mad: Confused as to why everything still worked fine without this earth connected up to the front loom section as it should, I discovered that it is just an earth loop in the wiring diagrams. Odd! Anyway at least I know why that fuse was popping.:rolleyes:

CTWV50 26th August 2014 08:17 PM

Ordered a CBS dash blank in black GRP, I received a GRP dash blank in various shades/finishes inc scratched, dull and flaky. What the hell is wrong with these companies!!!!

Anyway, I couldn't be arsed sending it back at this late stage so I'll cover or paint it. Sick of these companies I really am.

Good news is it's strong and I don't have to worry about damaging it's perfect finish, and I managed to get it half way fitted fairly easily.



CTWV50 27th August 2014 09:54 AM

Thought it was worth a moan....

"Hello CBS,

I received this item today, on time and well packed. Thank you. Unfortunately the items finish is really bad and is unusable as a finished item with the quality and finish of the gel coat. I was most disappointed. Not wanting to go to the effort of returning it, with it being a large item, but unhappy to accept it in it's current condition. I would consider a partial refund to go towards having it painted or covered by some means. I would accept a £25 partial refund even though this would not fully cover painting it gloss black.

Best Regards"


Reply.....

"Hi Chris, sorry about that. I'm not happy about charging you for that either. Not sure why it was sent not polished, the warehouse guys must be packing with their eyes shut!!!!. Please keep it with my apologies, I have refunded you in full. If you would rather a replacement please let me know.

Matt"


:D CBS are OK! Like a good company does, they accept their mistakes and rectify them quickly.

thailoz 27th August 2014 11:23 PM

Thats good to hear I am happy it got sorted and CBS are a good company as i will be ordering from them soon

dubzter 28th August 2014 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTWV50 (Post 98551)
Thought it was worth a moan....

"Hello CBS,

I received this item today, on time and well packed. Thank you. Unfortunately the items finish is really bad and is unusable as a finished item with the quality and finish of the gel coat. I was most disappointed. Not wanting to go to the effort of returning it, with it being a large item, but unhappy to accept it in it's current condition. I would consider a partial refund to go towards having it painted or covered by some means. I would accept a £25 partial refund even though this would not fully cover painting it gloss black.

Best Regards"


Reply.....

"Hi Chris, sorry about that. I'm not happy about charging you for that either. Not sure why it was sent not polished, the warehouse guys must be packing with their eyes shut!!!!. Please keep it with my apologies, I have refunded you in full. If you would rather a replacement please let me know.

Matt"


:D CBS are OK! Like a good company does, they accept their mistakes and rectify them quickly.

Good customer service.

CTWV50 28th August 2014 03:24 PM

Bit more done....now I can see my dials. Ordered some perspex and some fittings for dash today. Might move on to the rear lights this weekend.


Oh and I ordered some 3D carbon wrap!:D

CTWV50 1st September 2014 11:00 AM

This weekend I spent the time I had with the car out the garage sorting out the rear wheel geometry, then replacing all the nuts with nylock nuts. I also discovered a problem with both rear callipers. Both weren't allowing the piston to return to the fully retracted position after disengaging the handbrake. One of these callipers I had refurbed but the handbrake pin was really stiff so I replaced the calliper with a good used one I had from the 1.8 mx5 I stripped. This one was worse as there just wasn't enough adjustment or space for the new pads and discs.:confused:

So I removed this one and made some space with a metal file. :D The other one on the right side appeared to have a weak return spring. I dug out a better one from my brake spares box and that one now works ok. After a bit of research I discovered all the rear callipers I have had (four) are all chinese copies. If I experience any more issues I might just have to buy some genuine mazda ones. I hope I don't have to.

I also got the dash screwed in place, I'm just waiting for some new hazard/fog switches and some perspex to turn up and then I can wrap it and do the rubber edge trim.

Re reading the IVA manual I can't be sure my upper harness mounts will pass, as once again the manual is ambiguous and fails to specify what is considered "thick" walled tube. My 7/16 UNF upper harness mount nuts are welded inside a length of 2mm walled 25x25mm box which is fully welded onto the top of the rear backrest top rail. I may order some unf bushes and weld them to the side of a piece of 40x40x3mm SHS and make a harness bar and bolt it into place instead of the roll bar I have made.:rolleyes:

Davidbolam 1st September 2014 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTWV50 (Post 98582)
This weekend I spent the time I had with the car out the garage sorting out the rear wheel geometry, then replacing all the nuts with nylock nuts. I also discovered a problem with both rear callipers. Both weren't allowing the piston to return to the fully retracted position after disengaging the handbrake. One of these callipers I had refurbed but the handbrake pin was really stiff so I replaced the calliper with a good used one I had from the 1.8 mx5 I stripped. This one was worse as there just wasn't enough adjustment or space for the new pads and discs.:confused:

So I removed this one and made some space with a metal file. :D The other one on the right side appeared to have a weak return spring. I dug out a better one from my brake spares box and that one now works ok. After a bit of research I discovered all the rear callipers I have had (four) are all chinese copies. If I experience any more issues I might just have to buy some genuine mazda ones. I hope I don't have to.

I also got the dash screwed in place, I'm just waiting for some new hazard/fog switches and some perspex to turn up and then I can wrap it and do the rubber edge trim.

Re reading the IVA manual I can't be sure my upper harness mounts will pass, as once again the manual is ambiguous and fails to specify what is considered "thick" walled tube. My 7/16 UNF upper harness mount nuts are welded inside a length of 2mm walled 25x25mm box which is fully welded onto the top of the rear backrest top rail. I may order some unf bushes and weld them to the side of a piece of 40x40x3mm SHS and make a harness bar and bolt it into place instead of the roll bar I have made.:rolleyes:

The handbrake on the mx5 has a bolt on the side (about 14mm) which you need to remove and then use a 4mm allen key to retract/adjust the piston when you replace the pads etc.

I bought a new set as I thought my old ones were bust but then i worked out how to adjust them

David

CTWV50 1st September 2014 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davidbolam (Post 98586)
The handbrake on the mx5 has a bolt on the side (about 14mm) which you need to remove and then use a 4mm allen key to retract/adjust the piston when you replace the pads etc.

I bought a new set as I thought my old ones were bust but then i worked out how to adjust them

David

Thanks Dave but no this calliper just wouldn't retract the piston far enough using the adjuster behind the 14mm bolt.

CTWV50 6th September 2014 08:31 PM

Still slogging away......

Finally started buttoning up the tunnel

And I've started on the potentially unnecessary harness bar for the lovely IVA mans benefit.

CTWV50 7th September 2014 10:18 PM

Good light today more pics of dash and buttons...

CTWV50 7th September 2014 10:21 PM

Finally done the centre (laugh) console....

A bit DIY looking but I couldn't figure out a better way to do it.:)

CTWV50 12th September 2014 09:52 AM

The IVA mans harness bar is finished. Lets hope he likes it!

flyerncle 12th September 2014 04:21 PM

Need is the mother of invention ;)

Not DIY, MIY made it ya self .

CTWV50 14th September 2014 10:56 AM

Finally got the dash all buttoned up with access covers under the dash etc. Got the IVA mans mirrors in position, lets hope he like them.

These switches for rear fog and hazard ended up being a real pita to get working so be aware. The switches were £22 from caterhamparts but then i discovered they were only momentary switches and they needed little actuator blocks to actually do anything useful. The two spade contacts that come with it are just for the switch LED. I thought these blocks would do the latching so the hazards would stay on but no they did not. Bit of research and I discovered I'd need latching relays costing £22 each!! Sod that, these switches are getting really expensive. Any how I discovered you could get a latching version of this switch for £6.50 each but I'd need to swap over all the shiny stuff and LEDs and modify the end of the switch to be able to make it function but finally got it all working. Phew! Bloody things cost be around £35 each, unbelievable.



edit: wish I'd got those allen bolt straight and even. I'll have colour them black of something.

CTWV50 14th September 2014 11:01 AM

Did a brake test on some concrete, fronts appeared to lock up evenly first.



Harness bar is on and I've routed the wires for the rear lights.



Just the back end to do really.:D

SeriesLandy 14th September 2014 05:14 PM

This company sell black stainless Allen head bolts but they cost about £1 each.
They are good quality but I only used a few as they are so expensive.

CTWV50 22nd September 2014 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeriesLandy (Post 98661)
This company sell black stainless Allen head bolts but they cost about £1 each.
They are good quality but I only used a few as they are so expensive.

Thanks I'll keep that in mind but might just get the spray paint out. :)

Finished my rear lights, need to try and figure out if the fog light is the correct angle. Not easy to do on unlevel ground. Any tips?



So just temporary rear cover, seat belts and seats to finish. Got a few nut covers, bolts and odds and sods still to order but I think it's getting close. Do you have to pay as soon as you apply for the IVA or does it happen later on?

In this shot I hadn't wired all the lights but tonight I finished them.

SeriesLandy 23rd September 2014 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTWV50 (Post 98746)
Thanks I'll keep that in mind but might just get the spray paint out. :)

Finished my rear lights, need to try and figure out if the fog light is the correct angle. Not easy to do on unlevel ground. Any tips?



So just temporary rear cover, seat belts and seats to finish. Got a few nut covers, bolts and odds and sods still to order but I think it's getting close. Do you have to pay as soon as you apply for the IVA or does it happen later on?

In this shot I hadn't wired all the lights but tonight I finished them.

I sent my docs on the 1st may and paid on the 8th and got a date on the 22nd for the following month. On 6th june

CTWV50 23rd September 2014 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeriesLandy (Post 98758)
I sent my docs on the 1st may and paid on the 8th and got a date on the 22nd for the following month. On 6th june

Oh thanks, did you pay by card on the phone. Form asks for card details but that doesn't seem sensible to put them on a form and send them through the post.

CTWV50 20th October 2014 01:54 AM

The IVA mans car is ready. I'm just £250 short of the cost of the test.



Can't say I'm going to be overly impressed if he finds something to fail it on that can't be fixed on the day. Just need some pictures printing before applying.:)

Uploaded 30 finish/IVA test pictures, please take a look and see if you can spot any issues. Thanks

Davidbolam 20th October 2014 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTWV50 (Post 99036)
The IVA mans car is ready. I'm just £250 short of the cost of the test.



Can't say I'm going to be overly impressed if he finds something to fail it on that can't be fixed on the day. Just need some pictures printing before applying.:)

Uploaded 30 finish/IVA test pictures, please take a look and see if you can spot any issues. Thanks

Hi Chris that car is looking really good. The only thing that I can see is I wouldn't put the 7 logo on the front until after the test unless it has the correct radius on the edges

Can't see anything else though. Remember to take plenty of tools and trim.

David

SeriesLandy 20th October 2014 06:01 PM

I can't see anything wrong with the car, hopefully you will get a first time pass.

What is the steering boss that you've used as I need one but I don't like the collapsible ones?

CTWV50 20th October 2014 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davidbolam (Post 99037)
Hi Chris that car is looking really good. The only thing that I can see is I wouldn't put the 7 logo on the front until after the test unless it has the correct radius on the edges

Can't see anything else though. Remember to take plenty of tools and trim.

David

Cheers David, yes I left the logo on as it's a pain to refit, if they don't like it I can just take it off as it's only zip tied on. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeriesLandy (Post 99045)
I can't see anything wrong with the car, hopefully you will get a first time pass.

What is the steering boss that you've used as I need one but I don't like the collapsible ones?

Thanks, fingers crossed. Only thing I'm still slightly concerned about is handbrake effort, but hopefully I can adjust it if need be.

Boss came from David. It is collapsable but was missing the cover so I used some drainpipe and some sticky foam to cover it up for IVA purposes. I'm going to fit a quick release boss after the IVA.

Davidbolam 20th October 2014 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CTWV50 (Post 99046)
Cheers David, yes I left the logo on as it's a pain to refit, if they don't like it I can just take it off as it's only zip tied on. :)



Thanks, fingers crossed. Only thing I'm still slightly concerned about is handbrake effort, but hopefully I can adjust it if need be.

Boss came from David. It is collapsable but was missing the cover so I used some drainpipe and some sticky foam to cover it up for IVA purposes. I'm going to fit a quick release boss after the IVA.

I adjusted the handbrake so that there was plenty of adjustment left at the handbrake end. I then tighten ended it up during the test with a screwdriver.

The iva man liked the collapsibility of the boss

David

SeriesLandy 20th October 2014 07:07 PM

Quote:

Thanks, fingers crossed. Only thing I'm still slightly concerned about is handbrake effort, but hopefully I can adjust it if need be.

Boss came from David. It is collapsable but was missing the cover so I used some drainpipe and some sticky foam to cover it up for IVA purposes. I'm going to fit a quick release boss after the IVA.
Are you going for a weld on QR after IVA?

voucht 20th October 2014 07:26 PM

I can't say for IVA, but I've watched your pictures, and I can say that I think it is a very nice build, very tidy, in all the details. I like it :)

Congratulations Chris! I wish you the best of luck for IVA!

CTWV50 21st October 2014 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davidbolam (Post 99047)
I adjusted the handbrake so that there was plenty of adjustment left at the handbrake end. I then tighten ended it up during the test with a screwdriver.

The iva man liked the collapsibility of the boss

David

Cheers David I may have a little play with it before the IVA. Thanks for the tip.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeriesLandy (Post 99048)
Are you going for a weld on QR after IVA?

Quick Release? Err not sure yet I haven't done too much research yet but like the idea of being able to take the steering wheel off in carparks and to aid exit and entry.

Quote:

Originally Posted by voucht (Post 99050)
I can't say for IVA, but I've watched your pictures, and I can say that I think it is a very nice build, very tidy, in all the details. I like it :)

Congratulations Chris! I wish you the best of luck for IVA!

Thanks Sylvian very kind words. :)

TheArf 21st October 2014 08:34 AM

Good luck with the test, looking at your pictures, I noticed you might want to consider some trim around the plastic moulding for the rear light mounts, I remember reading somewhere of someone failing on the lack of radius.

its' just a thought


Arfon


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